Breastfeeding Help

Hi A.,

I wrote you a private message but not sure if you got it...I am a Lactation Consultant in Sacramento. I do home visits and I travel - which means I could come see you if you wanted. You need to see someone soon! That being said, I was at a conference today and met 3 Lactation Consultants who work in your area. :) They gave me information that can help you...but I am not sure how appropriate it would be to post it here. If you are interested, you can call me at ###-###-#### or e-mail me at ____@____.com and I'll give you their info so you can get help asap. :)

In response to a few things said...bag balm is NOT recommended for nipples - it says on the can that it is not to be ingested which is exactly what a baby would do while breastfeeding. I actually did a lot of research on this...it is made from petrolatum and un-purified lanolin...not what I would want going in to my baby's mouth or on my nipples.

Those who say that pain with nursing is just part of the package have been given misinformation. Nipples do not need to toughen up. What peeves me is so many of you moms out there were given this information and told to hang in there and toughen up rather than being referred to someone who could help figure out the reason for the problem. Sometimes it is the latch - sometimes it is not. The baby could be latched perfectly and mom will still be in terrible pain. Why? Something with the baby...tongue tie, tight jaws, too much suction going on in the mouth...and there are other reasons too. Sadly, not all LC's are skilled enough to find the answers, and even more sad: Some LC's actually tell the mom "Well, it looks good - just hang in there and you'll toughen up." Yeah - I was told that by one and now I am one and I know that line is a line of %$*!. :)

It shouldn't HURT to breastfeed. If everyone hurt like hell every time their baby nursed WHY would we do it? We are not a race of masochists. It is supposed to be pleasurable and enjoyable (or at least NOT painful!) to breastfeed.

So, A. - get help (I can give you the names of the LC's in your area) or at least call your public health department - the LC works there...don't allow yourself to continue to suffer...but do hang in there and keep looking for help until you find it. :)

Good luck to you...

Warmly,

J. Simpson, IBCLC, CIIM

Do find a good lactation consultant - I can't tell you how much mine helped me at first. Your hospital may provide them and are covered by insurance - UC Davis Med Center does.

The bright red nipples sounds like thrush/yeast to me, which causes toe curling pain. Or a possible bacterial infection. I had what looked like thrush and was under treatment for that for months when they finally figured out it was a staph infection with the same symptoms (pain, redness, nothing else). If you unlatch the baby, do they look white at all? Vasospasms or Raynaud's syndrome can cause intense nipple pain as well (I had that too).

You need a milk culture to determine what it is for sure, and get appropriate treatment. An LC can walk you through all of that.

Dr. Jack Newman's website had great information on this issue and his all purpose nipple ointment is a wonderful treatment for both yeast and bacterial infections. Maybe you can get a prescription for that? I also found a ton of support on this forum: http://www.mothering.com/discussions/index.php

I'm so sorry - don't give up. I had intense pain for a few weeks, but at 9 months we're still bfing and it's heaven when you get past the initial pain!

Oh - and I strongly disagree with washing your nipples between feedings! Let them air dry in between feedings - no need to wash, that just dries the skin out more.

Hi A.-

If it only hurts really bad at the latch on, but not once the feeding gets going, then the baby is probably latched on correctly. I used to hold my breath, and let it out right as my baby latched on. It doesn't make the pain go away, but it makes the latch on just slightly more bearable.
If it makes you feel any better, I've been breastfeeding for almost 9 months now, and I had almost forgotten about that pain in the beginning months (until I read your question). It gets better...much better. :-)
Good Luck!

A.,

Please do not give up on the breastfeeding...it is SO good for your baby and the bonding time just cannot be replaced! Usually by 4 weeks your nipples should not be as painful as the first two weeks, so I am guessing that although your little one may be latching onto the nipple correctyl, her body may not be positioned correctly.

If you have a Boppy or even just a large throw pillow, use it to provide support so that your little one is high enough that the nipple doesn't pull downward when she is feeding. Position her directly parrallel to you only sideways (imagine a "t") with her tummy to your upper abdomen so that when she latches on her little nose looks like it is almost smooshed onto your breast. It will kind of look like she cannot breath, but she can. If she has not released suction when you are done feeding, slip your finger into the side of her mouth to release her. After each feeding, apply Lanisoh (lanolin) ointment to your nipples to help soften and ease the pain. It is totally natural, so you do not have to wipe it ointment off prior to your next feeding...it should have soaked in by then anyway. Wear soft cloth washable/reusable nursing pads between feedings or breast sheilds between feedings to reduce the rubbing. When you nap or if they are especially painful, lie in bed with no bra or top. If the nipples are blistering or cracking, your little one is not latching on right or is not positioned correctly.

Also, please call a Lactation Specialist in your area to have her evaluate your breastfeeding and give you tips. It is a little unnerving having someone you don't know watch you breastfeed, but if she is good, she will put you at ease and the pain will be gone quickly if not immediately. If the LS wants to charge you, call up the local WIC office and ask to meet with their LS because even if you do not qualify for the program, they will help you since breastfeeding is SO important. Another option is to call the La Leche League to find out if there is someone local who can meet with you to help out.

Keep up the good work!

Best,
C.

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Please DON'T GIVE UP! My pain was also sooooooo bad in the beginning and I wanted to give up too. Just try to get through each feeding and don't worry about how much your baby is getting. We supplemented with a bottle after each breastfeeding just to make sure each baby was getting enough for the first 3-4 weeks. Keep at it...you will appreciated it in the long run as formula is sooooooooo expensive! Call a fellow mom and ask for a pep talk each time you want to just give up. I called someone every night. If you need to, you can even call me!
M. D.

So much good responses and I can relate to almost all of it! Auch! I feel for you.

I do not know if anyone mentioned;
VINEGAR?

It reallllyyyy helped me, so this is how you can use it;
dilute vinegar in water ( i cannot remember the exact ratio, but I know i just did a bit of it mixed in a glass in the end, and it seemed fine pretty much how half and half). then you keep dipping cotton-balls ( and I put the wet cotton in plastic bags so I could take them with me while out, and left them in every bathroom in the house). I would put this on my nipples in between feedings ( and the baby never minded) and let the nipples air dry as much as you can. This helped me more than anything ( and after starting the vinegar I never really needed any nipple shields or other creams, even if that might be great help at times too). We went though this off an on for the first half a year with my second child, and it was a life saver. Any vinegar will do, however I like Apple cider vinegar the best.

Pat yourself on the back and stick with it, and check out the great advice of everyone here, there are a lot of ways you will get help with this! It is all worth it.
A.

I had this problem too. It is incredibly painful, but it can be resolved without giving up breastfeeding!!!

With my first baby, all it took was using lanolin regularly. I had been grossed out by it at first, so had not tried it until after my nipples were cracked and bleeding. I started lathering it on (the nipple, not the entire areola) after every feeding.

I sitll had problems with my third baby, even using the lanolin. That time it was worse on one side than the other. I went to see a lactation consultant at El Camino Hospital (insurance covers the cost). She thought it was a positioning issue and suggested a different nursing pillow (My Breast Friend.) Sure enough, the pillow made the difference and the pain resolved.

EL Camino Hospital also has a Breastfeeding support group that meets twice a week or so. It's opeen to anyone on a drop-in basis. You just take your baby there and chat with a lactation nurse and the other moms. Contact "Maternal Connections" at the hospital if you want more info.

Good luck!

HI A.,
If you can try to meet with a lactation consultant with your hospital. You can also contact your local LeLeche League group and they can help too. It sounds like her latch isn't right which could be causing all the pain. You are doing a great job trying to keep up with the breastfeeding. I hope this helps and you start feeling better soon.
Sara

Try bag balm on your nipples between feedings. Make sure you wash your breasts well before the baby nurses. It will help with chaffing and drying that occurs from the constant use. It is used on milk cows between milkings and it really works. You can get it in a small green can for this purpose. If you can't find it in the pharmacy try the local feed store. It is a great product. Good luck it does get easier the longer you nurse, and it might help if you express some milk before the baby nurses.

since we are all so different, i would encourage you to reach out to a lactation consultant. sometimes we think our babies are latched on 'correctly' but the pain tells us something is wrong. way to go with toughing it out; good luck on letting someone look and watch and offer advise.

If baby has latched on even just a little to the side of the nipple, it is very painful. It is difficult once the baby does that. Be very careful that the nipple is direct in the baby's mouth. You can tell because there is a bulge on one side of the nipple and the baby tends to suck from that rather than direct on.

I have read that nursing actually helps the baby grow in intelligence after born. It also helps baby's immune system, so I hope all goes well and you can get through it.

I was always sore the first few weeks nursing, I wanted to cry it hurt so bad. Get some pure Lanolin. You can get it at Target or Longs in the baby isle. It is in purple container. It was my life saver!!!!

I think most people have covered it...I think it would be helpful to have someone assist you in troubleshooting the latch. Here is the website for La Leche:

http://www.llli.org/WebUS.html

Also, because I know these things can come to a head in the middle of the night:

If you are unable to find a Group or Leader near you, 24-hour breastfeeding help is available toll-free in the US from the LLL Breastfeeding Helpline-US at 877-4-LALECHE (877-452-5324).

Good luck...get some support...it will get better!

Happily breastfeeding momma to a 14 mnth old :-)

Hi,
PLEASE don't give up! Yes, it hurts for about the first month or two. I breast fed all of my children (my son and twins). You can do it. The best thing that I found for the pain was very hot showers and breast shields. They keep your nipple from sticking to your nursing bra and nursing pads. Also the Lanolin that you can buy from Target or Wal-Mart; keep putting it on all the time. It helps to keep the drying of your skin to a minimum. It is so important that you hang on. The pain does go away and you and your child will be so grateful that you were able to work through it. The bond that forms from breast feeding is so tender, dear, and irreplaceable! So hang in there, it will get better. One more thing that you may check when you are nursing, is how your baby is laying while nursing. Try lifting his/her chin so that they can latch on completely. A lot of times, the babies try to only nurse from the nipple. They need to have their entire mouth full of your breast. This will reduce the pain because they won't be sucking only on your nipple. I hope this helps!
E.

A.,

Hang in there. It DOES get better. Get Lansinohs Lanolin cream. It is all natural and a healing oint. Baby can safely nurse off your breast with this there. Apply every time you are done nursing. It is the miracle cream. Don't give up. It will be well worth it. It could be thrush and if so you can pass it back and forth to baby, so just check with your OB. They prescribe this yellow liquid called Nystatin and you rub on your nipples a few times aday and baby can nurse with this and it should get better if this is the problem.

Aside from that here are some extra tips to help lessen the pain.
1. Be sure the baby is positioned belly to belly with you. You want to make sure you are bringing baby to your breast and not your breast to baby. I always cradle the babies head in my crook of my arm. Football hold and cross over were not comfortable to me. I also disliked any pillows. This was not comfortable to me. My arms got a work out each day though. Nothing wrong with that.

2. Be sure her mouth is completely covering (as much as possible) your areola,(which is the brown circle on your breast). Tickle her lip with your nipple to help get her to open her mouth. If you can squeeze a bit a milk out onto your nipple first then she will get a quick taste of what's there and open. Don't allow baby to continue sucking just to suck. When baby is actively nursing you should hear suck, and swallow. When you don't baby could be done and just sucking to suck and this will cause extra unnecessary soreness.

3. The initial latch on the first 4-6 weeks until your nipples has a chance to toughen up can hurt for the first 20-50 seconds. This is normal and it will get better. I experienced the same thing and I nursed for 1 y with my last 2 babies (1st two babies were twins) exclusive. Don't think there weren't times where I wanted to quit too. But it will get better.
Need anymore help please don't hesitate to ask.
Trish

Talk to your ob/gyn and see a lactaction expert. I've nursed 3 children and had pain, but it was always because they weren't latching correctly or thrush or something. Also they sell a creme that helps at Target Lanosh (?) or something like that. It's ok to use and the baby doesn't seem to mind. Don't wait, it should get easier, not harder and more painful.

Hi A., I am a mother of 3 and every time I breastfed my kids for the first 6 weeks, it was horrible. I suffered from engorgement, blocked milk ducts, and mastitis. Everytime I was at my wits end and wanting to give up, but it does regulate and becomes normal and it doesn't hurt anymore. I breast fed each kid for a year. Trying to figure out how to have them eat more or less since you make milk on a supply and demand process was mindboggling. Massaging them in the shower, putting ice packs on them, iced lettuce leaves..yes I know it's odd but it was supposed to take away the swelling, was things I did constantly to try to ease the pain. The redness may be mastitis, in which case they'll give you medicine to make that go away and it is safe for the baby. The one thing that did chill out the blocked ducts and pain was rubbing "Bag Balm" on them. But wipe it clean off before you breast feed. My brother recommended it (he was a rancher and they used this stuff on the cows utters when they got blocked ducts, etc..) I asked my doctor and she said yes, it helps greatly. You can buy it at Longs or Safeway, etc.

I know exactly what you are going through and how horrible it is, but please try to stick with it, it is worth it in the end and should just take a couple of weeks to regulate.

Regards,
J.

I had thrush while my daughter did not. I treated it, it went away and so did the pain.

J.

A.,

I feel your pain. Hang in there~ I would call the hospital lactation specialist ASAP. Or La Leche League (its a breast-feeding support/info group). They can help you with your issues. Don't be afraid to ask someone to come to your house and help you with it. It sounds to me like your baby isn't latching properly. That can cause serious pain! Breastfeeding shouldn't hurt though- so I would get help with it as soon as possible.

Good luck and don't give up. You can do this!

Love,

Molly

1. Do find a lactation consultant, they should help you get a good latch established, plus examine you for thrush.
2. Do wash gently between nursings ... without soap aas the soap will dry out your skin on your nipple.
3. Do try Bag Balm on your nipples, it should help to sooth the nipple now.
4. If you use a nipple shield, do try to use it on alternating breasts so that you give one side s rest.
Good luck

Hi, A.. I can completely empathize with you! I had the SAME thing happen with my daughter, to the point where I had bloody, raw nipples and could barely even nurse without extreme pain. A friend of mine told me about nipple shields, which are these silicone covers that go over your nipple and they have holes in them so that the milk comes through. The baby's mouth doesn't actually touch your nipple. I had some concern about nipple confusion, but was so desperate, it was either use the shields, or stop nursing. I used them for two weeks, and once I got to around 6-8 weeks, my nipples had healed and things were back to normal.

I went on to breastfeed my daughter til just two weeks before her third birthday, so I know there was no interference from using the nipple shield for just a couple of weeks.

Putting breastmilk on your nipples can also help to heal them if they are cracked or chapped.

Hang in there!!! Breastfeeding is so beneficial for you and your baby. I know this period is rough, but I do hope you can find something that gives you relief so you can continue. Best of luck!!

M.

Try a nipple shield if you want to continue breast feeding. I used one with my first. It shields the nipple and your baby can still latch on. It will give your nipple time to heal then one day try without, until one day you won't be using anymore. It worked great for me! Hope it helps you too.
H.

DONT GIVE UP HONEY! it looks like you have tons of great advice, so take it and keep on nursing. pain-free nursing is a reality and a JOY!

This happened to me as well--and I was at my wit's end. A very wise pediatrician suggested that it might be yeast--even though my daughter and I were otherwise asymptomatic. I applied an antifungal over the counter cream (like lotramin) 3 times a day, and the pain and redness were gone in 3 days! The antifungal doesn't hurt the baby--same med is used for thrush--and the difference was AMAZING.

S.

I would contact a lactation consultant. A lot of hospitals have them. My nips were only sensitive that first week because they weren't being sucked on that often. Other than that it doesn't hurt and it shouldn't hurt you. Oftentimes that's a sign of improper latching. Also, do NOT dry your nips off after feeding... let them air dry or just put them back in your bra. You can also express a little breastmilk and leave it on the nips. It has healing properties for you too.

I had the same problems, it's very difficult to stay focused on nursing when you are in so much pain. The first two months of breastfeeding I spent a lot of time working with the lactation consultants at the hospital. Part of the problem was that I was so full, and the volume of my let down was a lot. So my daughter was pinching off my nipples while she was nursing to reduce the flow.

Two things saved me. First of all, massage your breast around the areola. This is usually extremely hard just before you breastfeed. Massaging starts the let down process before you begin nursing. It also softens your breast so that it's not so painful when the baby latches on. Second, I was SO thankful when I finally got a nipple sheild. At that point I was so raw, bleeding and infected that I had no other choice. Don't let them tell you that using a sheild will be bad for nursing. If you don't there's a greater chance you'll give up on breastfeeding because it hurts so much.
I used my sheild for a couple of months until I was completely healed. My daughter ate frequently... during the day sometimes every hour, so my nipples were extremely sensitve. She didn't even notice when we stopped using it and breastfed successfully up until she was 9 months old!

It was horrible at the beginning, but once these techniques helped me get it under control, I'm so glad I was able to continue breastfeeding.

To wrap up this long response... sorry. Lactation consultant to check for baby's latch, massage, sheild until you've healed.

You can do it!!

Good luck and enjoy you beautiful baby!

Just remembering breastfeeding for the first time just sends chills down my spine. I know exactly how you feel. I will tell you it gets better.

My nipples were sore, bleeding at some points, and blistery. The lactation consultant said it was because my daughter had a high pallet (the roof of her mouth was high) which caused the nipple when she sucked to go to the roof of her mouth. This is what is supposed to do, because the pallet was so high my unbelievably large breast wouldn't reach and it just caused bruising, soreness and blisters that would bleed.

At first (with in the first day of being home) I used a nipple shield to help cut down on the sheer pain of my nipple in her mouth. But i only used it a couple times. For you though at this stage I think that would be bad.

I think taking ibuprofen periodically would be helpful. And this sounds bad, but don't feel bad about trying to get your bottle every once in a while, I did it once a day.. really just to give yourself a rest. does pumping feel ok? If not suppliment with good formula. 1 oz. just enough to give you a break. It helped when I was engorged a little for some reason. If she didn't finish, I would pump it out.

And keep trying for another couple of weeks. Because (and I am not kidding you) I was in a lot of pain during the beginning, and once i hit 6 weeks (just like my doctor said) the pains significantly decreased. By 8 weeks, I was pain free.

I say this to everyone that is expecting just had a baby.. not everyone is meant to nurse. sometimes its just hurts and is uncomfortable. And sometimes it is NOT worth it, when it comes to your sanity. and when it interferes with the relationship with your child. the child loves you just the same as when you nurse. trust me.. all babies know WHO their mom is.

You poor thing! I know exactly how you feel. The first 6 weeks of BF with my son was so painful, but it does get better. There is a mixure of topical ointments that you can use to help heal. Call your local lactation rep., and she can most likely help you. The mixure is all over the counter, but I can't remember what they are off hand. Don't give up! I know it is so hard and unbarable, but it will get easier and easier. I will try to find the list of ointments and send to you. Hang in there!

I think the ointments were: An antifungal, cortizone, and an atheletes feet ointment. Sounds really strange, but it worked wonders. One of my nipples seperated from me and my other was so cracked that it blead. Using the ointment mixed together I applied after each feeding and then wiped it off prior to nursing. I was good in no time. Also remember to let your nipples get air.

I would really [highly] suggest you seeing a lactation consultant -- does your hospital have a good one? If you have Kaiser, they have great ones and they are FREE appointments!
I'm going to mention one possibility because it's what I had with my first baby and suffered 5 LONG months of sheer pain, but I was dedicated to breastfeeding and met with my LC regularly to help me through.
I had fast let-down and overproduction, which essentially meant that every time I fed my son, he'd be "drowning" in milk and he'd clamp down on my nipple, which made it continually sore for months and months. [He also had a rather poor latch, which made it all exponentially worse, but it doesn't sound like you have that problem thank goodness!]
Anyways, I would highly recommend stopping in to see a consultant - they're fantastic and if you REALLY want to nurse your baby, it's so worth it sticking it out through all the pain.
Good luck!
K.

Don't give up. I went through the same thing with my first. It took about 6 weeks or so before my nipples felt better and then everything was fine and I fed my daughter for a year and a half. I was determined to breastfeed, but I did have some doubts when it hurt so much in the beginning. It would be a good idea to see someone to make sure your baby is latching on correctly and that she doesn't have thrush. My daughter was very small and the midwives I saw for help said that she was latching on ok, it was just that her mouth was really small. One thing that helped me was expressing a bottle for the evening feed to give my nipples a break, another thing that helps is putting cold savoy cabbage leaves on your breast (sounds weird, but there is a chemical in the savoy cabbage that helps). Best of luck.

Hello A.,

First of all, congratulations for your baby who's lucky to be breastfed. Second, don't just hang on there, but consult someone from La Leche League (www.lalecheleague.org). The first 6 months of brestfeeding was extremely painful for me, and no book, friend, doctor, or nurse (except Ann O'Connor from Oakland Kaiser) could understand what was going on and help me. Actually they all gave me very contradictory advices and I felt more then confused- with a lot of pain. Until I went to a La Leche consultant.
First of all I had thrush (or yeast infection), which often comes after antibiotics. My son has been fine all along. He's now 3, has been weaned long ago, and is very healthy and strong.
Then I was overproducing milk and couldn't stand any slight pressure without having plugged ducts and couple times even mastitis (breast infection). I was exhausted and my life was led by my two full leaking breasts. I had to do hot compress to unplugg the ducts which was bringing back the yeast infection. It was really no fun, but I was determined to brestfeed for my son, and actually when it didn't hurt - inbetween infections- I loved it.
I was affraid to pump, because I didn't want to produce more milk, but actually it is what helped me stabilizing my milk production.
So please talk with a lactation consultant from La Leche League ; it's worth it!
Good luck and you'll see, it can be really fun to breastfeed!

A., you are AMAZING! Breastfeeding should not hurt. In fact it should feel great and give you a "high". Please go see a lactation consultant or your local La Leche League to help you with your babies latching. When baby latches her nose should line up with your nipple, her chest should be on your chest (between your breasts), and when she opens super wide quickly cram your entire (or as much as you can) breast in her mouth. She should NEVER feed on just your nipple. The milk ducts are around the nipple, not the nipple itself. Also, put some lanolin on your nipples after feeding. There are several kinds but two of the best are the Medela Purlan 100 and Lansinoh - these are great because they are safe for you and baby without needing to wash off your already sore nipples. Also, squeeze a little extra breastmilk onto your nipples after your daughter is done nursing to pat (don't rub so it doesn't hurt) on your nipples. Remember, once you both learn to latch properly it won't hurt to nurse. You are doing a great thing and keep it up! Good luck and congratulations!!!!

Hi A.,
I have not read all the responses, but I can only ask you to not give up on breastfeeding. My son cried constantly at every feeding for the first 6 weeks and I was at the end of my rope. Washington Hospital Lactation Center, 2299 Mowry Ave, Ste 2C, [at Civic Ctr Dr]Fremont, CA 94538 has excellent Lactation Consultants and they have safed us. They have breastfeeding workshops that are free but if you prefer to have your privacy you can arrange a personal appointment and even your husband can come. I believe I paid about 80 Dollars but that was money well spent. I ended up breastfeeding my son for the first 12 month which I did not even plan in the beginning. So please do not give up on breastfeeding as you will be rewarded at the end.
Good luck, C.

I was there too! The thing that helped me was putting PureLan on my nipples after each feeding. The other was that if the baby latched on and it hurt to take him off imediatly and start over. I don't know if you are in the South Bay but at Good Samaritain hospital on every Tuesday from 2-4 there it is a breastfeeding meeting where you can get help from professional lactation consultants who will answer any questions. You can also call Parenting and Breastfeeding at Good Samaritain Hospital anyday.
Good Luck.

A.,
I would call the baby's doctor and see if they have a lactation nurse that can help you. Or, perhpas your OBGYN hass one. In my opinion, the pain is not normal. Some irriation maybe at the beginning but if you are really hurting something else is going on. I bet once you talk with the lactation nurse they will be able to solve it. Call today they are sooo great. I saw one for the first couple of months of my sons life and she helped me so much.
Good luck and hang in there. Before you know it it will be easy and pain free!
-A.

You have to go the doctor or to a lactation specialist! This is not normal. You might have fungus, which is easily fixed with medicine! You are going to be fine, but get help immediately. It sounds painful!
Good luck!

ohhh!!! I sympathise. My newest is 10 weeks old, and I am fine now, but the intensity of the pain when he latched on untill just a few short weeks ago, almost stopped me from breastfeeding. I'm soo glad I kept it up, and there isn't any pain to speak of now. I'm sooo sorry. My lactation counselor suggested feeding from slightly different angles - face her the other way with her tummy under your arm, or lie down on your side with her on the bed facing you, or anything that will work but gets her sucking from even a slightly different angle. I hope you feel better soon. It's nearly unbearable right now though :(
Also, I would (when I could) feed on only one side each time and alternate. this gave them longer to heal between feedings.

It will get better, just try and hang in there. Your nipples will eventually toughen up. I honestly can't remember how long it took since my kids are now teenagers but it should get better soon.

It sounds like you may have a yeast infection in your nipples. It can cause sharp and shooting pain. Yeast infections are often linked to thrush - and can be passed back and forth from the baby to mom.

You should see your doctor - they can prescribe something (though it takes a while for the infection to go away usually) or you can try gentian violet - it can be effective but really messy.

Good luck. If you can get beyond this, it will be well worth it.

if the baby is latching on correctly then there should not be any pain...at all! Get yourself to see a lactation specialist she will be able to help you. Good luck...

You need to contact a Lactation consultant immediately. Minor problems with their latch and tongue placement can cause trama from one bad feeding that can continue to hurt at future feedings. If you wish to continue (it can be very rewarding and these first couple of weeks are difficult) set up a consulattion. Your hospital should have a consultant. The have great ones in our area at the Los gatos Community hospital. Even with an initial good latch they can slide down. A good consultant can help. I've been ther and it can hurt. But you should have your child looked at by the consultant also. If your daughter is pushing with her tongue it can cause the soreness also. During feedings let the opposite side air dry. Lansinoh ointment an be applied in the mean time. When you can leave your bra open because the rubbing from your bra can also irritate sensitive nipples. And in case it is thrush, change your breast pads frequently. But get an appt soon. It isn't supposed to hurt like this and don't get discouraged.

Hi A.,

It seems so many of us have been there. I cried almost every time I breastfed by son for the first few months. All the advice you've received is great...I didn't see mentioned the culprit in my particular case.

My son was tongue tied. This caused him not to latch very well and caused a great deal of the pain I was experiencing. They clipped it when he was about 4 months old and a week later breatfeeding was easy & pain free. Just something to check on your daughter.

Also to mention - Good Sam hospital has a free breastfeeding support group, even if you didn't deliver there. It was very helpful to me and the lactation consultants spend time with you, checking the latch & giving you advice - all free of charge.

I had horrible pain also with both of my babies. It only lasted for two weeks with each one and I did find out that the latching was most of the problem. Get some videos from a lactation specialist and watch over and over. This is how I finally figured it out and I think this is what helped the most. Also time helps. I felt like my nipples were in shock from all the use and needed time to adjust. It hurt me so bad i would cry for the first few minutes of each feeding and my husband would have to hold me while I held the baby. I am sure we were quite the site!!!

I feel sorry for you but please don't give up. I would have if I had not had a lactation consultant mother in law that gave me the videos and made sure I knew it would get better if I hung in there. It did and I am so glad I nursed. My babies have great immune systems from it. I nursed my first until 2 years and my second is 1 now and still going strong.

Whatever you do get help now before you do give up. I know how bad it hurts!!

I do have a cousin that had trouble and found out her baby was a tongue thruster and would not latch right. She did have to give up because he just could not learn how to latch on right.

Have a lactation consultant come to your house.

J.

A.,

I would talk with your doctor, and possibly get checked out with a lactation consultant. They're so helpful, and between the two of them may be able to QUICKLY diagnose what the problem is! You shouldn't be constantly suffering through your feedings! It's time to bring in some help!

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Hi there!
I can definitely feel your pain! I had a lot of pain in the 1st couple weeks and we called a La Leche League consultant to help and for someone to ask questions, etc. Call them today so you can get some help and support. I think everyone's breasts and nipples are different but it sounds like you may be having excessive pain. Do you have any nipple cream? That helps too!

Good luck!

first off, get yourself those soothies to relieve some of your discomfort while you figure this out or wait for an appointment with the LC. Try to see when the next LLL meeting is being held in your area also. They can be a wealth of info. You may have blanched nipples which is what I had and the pain never seemed to go away. It was painful to let the water run on me in the shower, it was so bad. It did get better. Are you holding your breast when the baby nurses? I found that I had to really position my breast into the baby's mouth and even hold it there to make sure the latch remained good. Not sure why I had this problem and other women seemed to be able to do it hands free without pain. It was just that way for me. I do believe it will get better and pass though. Once I got beyond it, it become so easy and then the idea of bottle feeding became totally foreign to me. Visit kellymom.com forums and also mothering.com forums for more message board advice online but I agree - you should try to see a LC. WIC should have one at no cost and maybe if you have a non-profit hopsital, their services might be free. Even your regular hospital might offer the services for free so just check everywhere. hang in there! It will get easier!

Hi A., Dont give up you just need professional help. Call a lactation specialist. I had similar problems and then some. there could be more to it than you think. My specialist helped diagnose my son as being tongue tied. It was missed in the hospital. She then helped me re train him to latch on and increase my milk production. They are worth their weight in gold. And yes it is expensive. IN walnut creek the john Muir Womens health center has amazing services. There is even a free weekly breast feeding support group. If you are not close to walnut creek just call your ob for a referral. And dont forget about la leche league. They are a less expensive option but not as thoroughly trained.Good luck and be kind to yourself,D.

I had that same problem shortly after delivery. The hospital offered a lactation specialist and she showed me the proper way he should be nursing. big difference the hurting sensation went away. Good luck and keep on trying. its such a beautiful bond. My son is now 16 months.

Girl! I hear ya! My daughter was tongue tied AND got thrush so i may have some helpful info RE breastfeeding issues:

1) YOU MUST BUY Ameda Comfort Hydrogel pads. They are expensive but they are truly miraculous for traumatized nipples.

2) If at all possible, avoid nipple shields. However, if they are the difference between stopping breastfeeding and continuing, go for it. Just know, they will affect your milk supply and you will have to go through the additional frustration of weaning your child from the shields. IF the baby is latching correctly and you do not have a yeast infection, even if you're nipples are traumatized it TRULY shouldn't hurt even as they heal.

3) Yeast infection home remedies: a) buy good quality probiotics. Empty capsule into expressed breast milk, make a paste, and spread on nipples prior to and after feeding you baby. You can also paint your nipples with Gentian Violet, although I did not do this. 3) Put pure Coconut Oil on your nipples. 4) If the baby appears to get thrush, you can treat her mouth with Calendula tincture. It tastes nasty, but it works. Use a q-tip and gently swab your baby's tongue, etc. 5) Purchase an over the counter homeopathic remedy -- at Elephant Pharmacy, perhaps Whole Foods. Elephant can probably take good care of you if you live near one. The meds that are prescribed allopathically have varying degrees of success because they all have sugar in them, which the yeast thrives on. I was able to treat my daughter's yeast infection and prevent one in myself using the above methods. Even if you go ASAP to the doc, get the probiotics to prevent a yeast infection in your daughter if you ahve a systemic issue. Probiotics are great and won't harm her. a wonderful, but expensive holistic pedatrician is in the South Bay. Her name is Elisa Song and her practice, with website, is Whole Child Wellness.

4) Get a lactation consultant. In the Bay Area I heartily recommend Charity Pitcher Cooper. Or, alternatively you can research recommendations on Berkeley Parents Network. Mine told me that by six weeks, breastfeeding typically radically surpasses bottle feeding in terms of maternal satisfaction, ease and convenience, etc, so...

5) DON'T GIVE UP! :) Once you've worked it out, breastfeeding is truly the best! Convenient, snuggly and it's a miracle food. I have a friend whose mom had cancer and she gave her breastmilk and swears it kept her alive longer...Researchers just found stemcells in breastmilk and there is nothing like it for your baby!

Good luck! We're all rooting for you on your journey to becoming a breastfeeding couple!

you may have thrush, it is a yeast infection of the nipples and causes pain and bright red nipples.

Check out Breastfeeding.com and look up thrush/

T.

MM A. , Call your peditrican and ask for a breast feeding consult, breast shields may help, but a concult can tell you if it is the manner baby latches or soaps etc

NOt sure where you live or what your medical services are but seek medical help from a Lactation Specialist. Kaiser has a breasfeeding group. There is also a breastfeeding group in SF. They can help you determine if it is thrush (I had this-OUCH!) and also watch the baby latch and so on.

It should not hurt this much so I hope you can get some help before stopping.

HI A.,

I feel for you. Have your OB/GYN check you for infection. I had one right about the same time and the antibiotic helped immediately. Do not delay because you need to be pain free to go on with taking care of yourself and baby. Get as much air as possible on your nipples between feedings. I used to walk around with the flaps of my nursing bra open whenever i could without a shirt on, preferrably after each feeding. Warm/hot compresses also are very helpful. Rest as much as possible. Your body has been through a tremendous amount of stress in the past 11 months and you need to rest. Do not forget that you are producing alot of milk and that takes an incredible amount of energy. Do not put any lanolin products on your nipples. It will not help. Good luck and remember that your local La Leche League is a great resource when you are breastfeeding. I found their book really helpful as well. I nursed my first child for 18 months and the second for 3 years.

Hi A., you've had great responses so I don't have much to add but to let you know you're not alone. With 4 out of 5 of my children, breastfeeding was extremely painful. In the morning, after that first clamp on, I'd say, after today, I'm quitting. I kept saying that everyday until it stopped being so painful.

The shield is an excellent idea, so is breast cream. Also, make sure you wash after feeding and if possible, let your breast air dry. One of my lactation coaches said that breast milk was the cure. I tried that too. For one of my children, I spent a lot of time with no shirt on and my nursing bra undone in my room because the lactation nurse suggested it. I don't know which combination helped the most but I can say clean, dry nipples with plenty of breast cream and breast pads will help.

Ask the nurse if your child is latching on correctly. Mine never did but the pain lessened and became non existant within 2 months. Then breastfeeding was a joy and worth every moment.

Good luck.

S.

A.,
Hang in there, sweetie, I remember it being the same for me for awhile-I went to the doc and I did indeed have thrush. I didn't know what to look for in my daughter's mouth but then even after I was diagnosed and they showed me what to look for, I didn't always see it. and I never saw the evidence on me. Go get checked because breastfeeding can be so wonderful once you get rid of the thrush. It felt like stabbing and raw. Once thrush was gone, we didn't have any more problems.
Good luck!
L.

Nipple shields are the way to go. I had the same problem at first and after about 4 weeks with the nipple shields I was able to nurse without them pain free! Good Luck!

I've been there - TWICE! You'd think it would be easier the second time around... Anyway, always air dry your breasts. Expel a little milk and let the nipples dry with that milk on them. This takes ~20-30 seconds and will ensure your problem is not chafing. Also, breastmilk is antibacterial and somewhat lubricating.

It sounds like you have a yeast infection, in which case the lanolin will just seal in that moist environment and make your problem worse. Seriously, anything like lotramin will make you feel better pretty quickly. It sounds gross, but it works, and is not harming to the child. (It is actually what they prescribe to squirt in the baby's mouth if she has thrush.)

There are these gel pads called soothies that are about the size of a dollar coin. I think I've even seen them at target, but you can certainly find them online. They are meant to be placed on your nipple between feedings to soothe the chafed breast and prevent chafing. If you use these with lotramin, you can ensure you treat all symptoms you may have. I kept mine in the fridge as the cold soothies were awesome!

Also, feel free to pump for a few days or feedings. You need to fix your nipples first otherwise you aren't going to breastfeed, anyway, so take the time you need to recover. But, if you really plan to breastfeed, and there are wonderful benefits to both you and the baby if you continue, you need to pump with a hospital grade pump (i had the $200 ameda pump and go) for about 20 minutes every 2 hours or so in place of the baby feeding. Otherwise you will decrease your milk supply and that is just going to frustrate you more.

I went through cracked, bleeding, yeast infected breasts with both babies, and I promise, give it a few days of special care, and you will be back to breastfeeding shape. And believe it or not, you will probably actually enjoy nursing in about 2 mos (when this pain is a distant memory and you aren't as freaked out about being a parent :) )

Good luck!

Hi A.,

I had the same problem and tried EVERYTHING. Everyone has different advice, including the lactation consultants (saw three, talked to one), the OB and the pediatricians. Much of it is conflicting. I was desperate and cried every time I nursed. I was told it was thrush, the latch, etc., etc. Basically, the only thing that helped me was taking ibuprofen and time. I really believe my nipples were just extremely sensitive and my son's sucking reflex was extraordinarily strong. One thing that did help was to take a break by pumping and having my husband feed him with a bottle. I nursed every other feeding. This will help if the pump doesn't hurt you as much, although some women find it more painful.

As I said, I no longer have pain and am happily nursing my 4-month-old son. Before getting to this point, however, I did have plugged ducts in each breast that turned into abscesses. One required surgery. I stuck with it and am happy I did. However, I think something that helped was knowing I could always stop and give my baby formula if it got too bad. I know most people think formula is the food of the devil or something, and there is a fairly concerted effort to guilt women who choose to give their babies formula. But hey, many of the woman writing on this forum were formula fed. It may not be as perfect as breast milk, but it worked out fine for us. Of course you can keep going, but don't be too h*** o* yourself if you decide that you can't. You're doing a great job with your baby and don't ever let anyone make you feel guilty about your choices.

It's good to look into the thrush possibility and consult with a health care provider just to rule out trouble, but the best advice that I can give you is to contact your local La Leche League chapter and ask to have someone come to your house (or go to a meeting). I had a very similar experience with my first child (excruciating pain during nursing, red chapped, cracked nipples, etc.) Someone from La Leche came to my house and helped me with the baby's latch. That's most likely what's going on. Another thing to try (although I think the latch and getting help from a nursing expert is the best option) is lanolin. Medela and Lansinoh make it, and you can buy it at the drug store (walgreens has it). You put it on your nipples before and after nursing. It is perfectly safe for the baby and really makes a difference in terms of reducing chapping. It saved me with my second baby. I am pregnant with my third now and give it as a gift to all of the friends I have who are expecting, and planning on nursing. Good luck. I know that it is painful; try to get some help from La Leche and get yourself some lanolin ointment.

Contact a La Leche League leader in your area - http://webpages.charter.net/bnwillis/LLL/leaders.html. They can be very helpful on the phone and/or do a home visit.

Hi A.,
Congratulations on your new baby! I had terrible pain for the first 5 to 6 weeks for a variety of reasons, inverted nipples, poor sucking on my son's part and even a milk blister. With the help of a lactation consultant, shields and support from my hubby, we got past the painful parts. It has been 11 months now and we are just starting to wean my son, so don't give up without trying to work with a lactation consultant.
Good Luck!

Don't give up!!! I promise it will get better. I had the very same problem with my first baby. It hurt so bad I couldn't even towel off after a shower. The second baby hurt too, but not for very long. I had it down by then and I think the hurt was just because my nipples had to get used to that kind of wear and tear (for lack of a better term). So, I bet it's a little of both for you...your body has to get used to that AND she probably isn't latching on correctly.

Contact a lactation consultant first thing in the morning. Your OB can point you in the right direction or La Leche League.

In the mean time, it always helped to use the index finger of my free hand to fold her bottom lip down just before she latched on. I don't know if that makes sense, but it ensured a nice wide latch-on. Also make sure you have a nursing pillow. I always LOVED one called My Breast Friend. I know, silly name, but it can be attached with a latch around your waist (or higher in my case) and it would stay in place.

Hang in there! It will get better...just see a consultant as soon as you can...it will be a HUGE help!

In my experience, sometimes it's best to consult a lactation specialist to see what exactly the problem is. Even when I was experienced at breast feeding, I learned a lot from a visit from the lactation nurse. The lactation specialists can really give you tips and help you establish a comfortable breastfeeding relationship with your baby. You can contact one through your OB or hospital or try to contact La Leche League. Best of luck!

Hello A. - As someone else mentioned, Hydrogel pads worked great for me during the first few weeks of feeding. I got them at the breastfeeding center at Kaiser hospital but, I'm sure you can find them online and elsewhere. Stick them in the refrigerator as they help sooth better when cold.

I wish you the best of luck.
B.

A.,

I completely relate to you! I had a very hard time, too. Three things helped me: first, I used a warm compress before feeding so that I relaxed a little and let down came sooner so my son wasn't sucking so hard. Second, I put cabbage leaves in my bra. Nice cold ones. They were amazingly soothing (incidently, I tried tea bags, but it didn't do anything for me but stain my bras). Third, I experimented with different nursing holds and positions so that he wasn't always sucking on the same part.

Even with my second baby, I had a difficult time. I cried and wanted to quit, but I was too stubborn. I am proud to say I made it through the whole first year. It got easier, but I honestly never "enjoyed" it in the euphoric ways some moms seem to experience. After about 3 months, I rarely if ever had any pain nursing. If you can, talk to a lactation specialist about the latch. It can be reassuring. It may also be something your pediatrician or one of the nurses can help you with.

Best of luck to you... and definitely try the cabbage!!!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't give up!!! I was going through the same thing as you. I couldn't even take a regular shower, the pressure from the shower head made me want to cry when it hit my nipples. They were itchy, raw, stinging all at one time and it seemed like it would NEVER EVER end. I actually worte a request just like you have and had the amazing advice not to give up. One day I just realized that it was easier. A lot less pain. I would definatly make an appointment with the dr just to be sure that you guys doint have thrush (we had a slight case of it which didn't help the pain). Do you have any Lansinoh cream? EVER time after a feeding I would goop that stuff on my nipples (I know it says use sparingly but that never worked for me =) Maybe feed and pump and have your significant other of fam member bottle feed in between for a little while. It WILL get easier and you soon will be patting yourself on the back when it's all over. Good luck!!! Keep feeding your baby that liquid gold that only you can give your child. And the bond you will both share is undescribable.

A., Keep up the breastfeeding. It is so worth it for you and your baby. I know that it is hard and that you are tired and that it hurts. It will get better. In my family we call it toe curlers because it makes your toes curl when the baby latches on. If you are worried about thrush you can try drinking a cap full of apple cider vinegar diluted in water every day and it will help to balance your ph and help if you have any yeast. You can always try calling a midwife in your area or try the LaLeche League. Nursing is so worth it!

Have you tried Lansinoh? It is a lanolin ointment that you apply to the sore areas throughout the day. No problem with it being ingested by the baby - it is totally natural. It was provided to me by both hospitals in which I delivered my girls. Also might want to try pumping with a nipple shield. It has been a long time since I have done that, but think I recall it helping. Much luck!

Hi A.. Stick in there as long as you can!! Go to the Dr - you might have an infection or you might need to release your milk--like you have too much. Try pumping or in the shower squeeze your milk out a little-start at your chest and squeeze downward toward the nipple- see if that helps. Sounds almost like you have an infection though... Good luck.. Don't give up!!

Hi, Have you looked into yeast infection? That happened with me. My daughter also had thrush. If so camamile tea helped after 2 visits to doctors didn't help. Also I used 100 IU vitamin E. Just poke a hole in the food grade supplements and apply a drop to your nipple after feeding. There is no need to wash before feeding since it won't hurt baby if it is low dose food grade supplement. Also make sure there is no latch on problem with baby such as tongue to tight, etc. Hope this helps. Feel free to call me ###-###-####.
S. Weckter
Global Wellness Concepts, Inc.

Hang in there A.! I also had pain and felt like giving up, but it got better sometime during the second month when my body was used to it and it didn't hurt anymore. Massaging your breast in the shower or using a warm gel pack helps. If your breast is overly full prior to a feeding, use your hand to express some milk out, so when your baby latches on, it will not hurt a much.

I just posted a similar message on my breastfeeding support group online. I'm experiencing exact same thing and my son is 2 weeks old. In the past couple of days, the pain is better now. Here's what I did:

1. See a lactation consultant to work on proper latching.
2. Use a combo of antibiotic ointment, lotrimin, and hydrocortizon (.5%) on nipple after each feeding. Wipe off with water before feed.
3. Allow nipple to heal if you can pump instead.
4. Try the breast shell to avoid nipple rubbing against bra/clothes
5. My lactation consultant suggested breastfeedingonline.com as a wonder source and kelly mom

Good luck. My situation got a lot better within a couple of days. Hang in there. I know how painful it is. I couldn't breathe or talk!

Hi A.

I had the same issues with my daughter. I used Lanolin cream for my nipples and also consulted a lactation consultant to assist with breastfeeding. Also the lactation consultants told me to make sure the child's lips look like a fishy when they suck. Hope this helps. Best of luck!

Hi there. Breastfeeding should NOT be painful- and there may be a reason causing it that can be looked into. Sometimes it's the latch and sometimes it can be something else entirely. I highly recommend you contact La Leche League or hire a lactation consultant immediately. If you need a referral for one feel free to contact me.

J. Stevens, L.Ac.
www.yourwholefamilywellness.com
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I had thrush, or a yeast infection, with both of my kids and neither one showed symptoms. Please go to the doctor right away! You will need a prescription for Nystatin, which will work so quickly you won't believe it. Do NOT put Lansinoh on or you will just seal the infection in and make it worse. Remember, yeast thrives on a warm, moist environment and nipples in a bra with ointment are a wonderful feeding ground!!

Good luck and I hope you feel better soon. It is worth it to stick with it.

Hi A.,
i have a 9 week old little girl and i too had nursing challenges. Hang in there it does get better. i would consult a lactation specialist such as La Leche League or Nusrsing Mothers Counsel even ask your OB or Pediatrician. My daughter wasn't latching on properly and the pain was unbearable. A nursing specialist can help you position your baby for a better latch. Ask your Dr, if you do have a yeast infection in your breast which can cause thrush in your baby. Seriously hang in there because the rewards are enormous and also watching your daughter grow as a result of all your hard work (nursing)is so gratifying. I hope this helps.

Despite the recent press about a particular breast cream, I would strongly suggest you use one. There are many safe ones on the market...I like Lanisoh. use it after every feeding and before you shower. If you are uncomfortable using a product that much, rotate cream after some feedings and breast milk after others (just coat your nipples with some of your breast milk.) If it's your breasts that hurt and not the nipples, try hand expressing or pumping some of the milk a couple times a day. Maybe you are getting engorged?

My daughter is now 22m and I breastfed her until she was 11m. At the hospital I was told the pain associated with breastfeeding would last only about a week, but mine lasted for 7 weeks! She did end up having thrush and me too, but the pain was no worse before or after the thrush. I just grinned and beared it because I really wanted to breastfeed her. I would suggest different positions- football, sidelying on the bed, and cradle- and rotating through all three positions with each breast because her latch wil be slightly different with each position. After the 7th week, it started to feel better for me and even comfortable- you might just have very sensitive nipples that need to be toughed up- don't forget the lanolin salve- it helped me (some). And if all else fails, you can try pumping (to bottle feed her) or even formula- above all don't feel guilty if you decide to stop breastfeeding! You have given it a good try!
L. mom of one and pediatric RN

Hi A.,
I can so identify with what you are going through! I had terrible pain with nursing at the beginning. It was so hard. The way I coped with it was to have my partner read me funny books while I was nursing so that I could laugh. It really helped. I know it is really hard, but it will get better. it just takes some time. I persevered and was able to nurse quite easily for a long time.

If your nipples are really red, you might want to be evaluated for thrush. That can make you red and it can also cause a lot of pain with nursing. If you have thrush, there are a number of things you can do to get rid of it, and that might help. Gentian Violet, vinegar, putting probiotics on your nipples--these can all help, and there are other options, too.

Good luck and don't give up! You can do it!

E. Bender NC, CHN
www.nutritionforthewholefamily.com

Your Local WIC Office usually has a lactation expert. You can see them at no cost, I am pretty sure...look them up and give em a call.

Hi A.,

Breastfeeding should not hurt. You should definitely call and make an appointment with a lactation consultant as soon as possible. A lot of insurance plans cover them (in our case, my son was the "patient".) If you can't afford a visit with a consultant, then call La Leche or find a local breastfeeding support group. The first thing you need to do is rule out a latch problem and only a lactation consultant can do that.

Unfortunately, it does sound like you may have thrush. Your baby won't necessarily show signs. I battled thrush for months and months and my baby was mostly asymptomatic. My advice is to treat it as aggressively as possible and that includes getting both you and your baby on Diflucan (if the baby is not on it, then you can pass thrush back and forth; but good luck trying to get your pediatrician to prescribe it.) Unfortunately, despite the safety of the drug, doctors are resistant to prescribing the proper dosage. But you need to be clear for at least two weeks before you stop taking the meds. Ask for a 28-day prescription of Diflucan (assuming you have insurance...the stuff is ridiculously expensive.)

Bottom line is that if it is thrush, you should arm yourself with as much info as possible. Jack Newman is THE expert on the subject. Here's a link to his handouts: http://www.kellymom.com/newman/c-candida_protocol.html

Hope that helps.

Hi Sweetie, I really feel for you, breastfeeding should not hurt like you have described. My suggestion is to contact your local hospital or birthing center, or your OB may have a referel and make an appointment with a lactation consultant ASAP. they are extremely helpful and can watch your daughter nurse and assess if she is latching on correctly, and give you advise and support. Try a product called lansinoh and apply to your nipples before and after each feeding this may help the rawness and redness. the lactation consultant can also diagnos thrush. Call for help because once you and your daughter find a comfortable way to nurse it is a wonderful experience and so nutritious

It could be thrush as someone suggested, I got that a lot. You should see your OB right away and then possibly a lactation consultant (they are usually covered by insurance for at least a visit or two).

If you do not have thrush, try Lansinoh cream - it is applied after every feeding and helps to heal your nipples. My first time breast feeding, was very painful and difficult and I had many problems. The next two children were a breeze. I tried very hard, went to lactation consultants, used perscription yeast creams, took prescription yeast pills, pumped, etc. When my daughter started refusing to breast feed (because of all the problems - she had thrush in her mouth and me on my nipples) I finally pumped for a month or so and finally gave it up (if you are sore now, pumping is even worse) - but I got help too late.

You can also rinse your nipples with a little vinegar and water and eat lots of yogurt to help with yeast that is natural and comes on more when nursing.

Hi A. - You've gotten some great advice. Definitely see your doctor to rule out Thrush or some other infection. Also definitely see a lactation consultant. As several moms have already said, get some Lansinoh cream and use it after every feeding - it works fast to heal and then protects to prevent future drying, cracks, and so forth. Finally, the absolute BEST feeling thing in the world is these gel pads called Soothies. I would recommend getting several pair and always keep at least one pair in the refrigerator. They feel great even without being cooled because they are naturally cool and cooling/soothing, but if you put them in the refrigerator, all the better. If you live in Marin, I think you can get them at Heller's in San Rafael and you can also get them at Marin General. They're also available at RiteAid, Longs, and Walgreens. Check out the website: www.Soothies.com.

Good luck!

N.

I had pain associated with breastfeeding so I used a nipple shield for a long time, then was finally able to do it naturally. You can get the nipple shield at Target or Babies R Us in the breast feeding section. And if you can go see a lacation consultant that might be helpful as well. Breastfeeding should not hurt....the nipple shield should take the pain away!

Let me tell you, nursing is when I used my pain management techniques I learned for labor! It gets better, should be very soon. I would call La Leche League today. They are a group of women volunteers that are nursing experts. There are groups everywhere, so call to find out the number for your area. The number for Oakland is ###-###-####. They can give you a number of someone local to call. You'll be glad you did. Or if there is a lactation consultant associated with your medical insurance/dr. that would be wonderful too.

A.,

I feel your pain! I nursed my daughter for 11 1/2 months and the first 3 were excrutiating! I never thought that something so natural could be so difficult!

I read some of the responses and I think that they pretty much cover it - I have tried everything they suggested and although they are really good ideas they never helped me. If this happens to you then I have two other suggestions.

1. After nursing rub some of your breast milk on your nipples and then sit in the SUN to let them dry - it is time consuming and a little tricking because you have to be in an appropriate location, but there is something about the sun light and the vitamin D that helps them heal.

2. I used Lansinoh and other nipple creams containing Lanolin for the first two months. I had numerous lactation consultants and nurses ask if I could be allergic to wool. I wear wool sweaters and scarves all of the time so I told them no. After two months of total pain I ran out of my cream one day. I didn't get any for a day or two, but after I did I didn't use it becasue my nipples seemed to be doing better. About a month later when my daughter became a bit more aggressive with her nursing they got sore again and I started using the cream again. They got worse and worse and I tried everything again. Finally, out of desperation I decided to stop using the creams all together and see if that made a difference. As soon as I stopped, they started getting better! I just wanted to kick myself. I could have saved myself a lot of pain and tears if I had just not used the cream. I guess I am alergic to Lanolin.

For anyone experiencing ongoing nipple pain, I suggest you stop using the cream for a week and see if it helps!

Also I thought that the Soothies were very comforting! They are expensive, but you can wash them off and let them air dry once they stop being sticky. After they dry they are like new!

I wish you all of the luck in the world!....and just remember:

"This too shall pass"

D. and Layla (age 2 1/2)
P.S...if you just need someone to talk to please email me and I will give you my number. I know what you are going through and how hard it is! It will get better - stay strong and don't give up! You can do it!!!!....and don't let anybody discourage you!!!!!!

I've had the same problem. So far the best things i've found are to really slather on the lanolin right after i feed and use new pads each time. Also when I'm beyond my ability to cope with the pain, after making sure she is latching well and not pinching or anything else possibly correctable, I use a nipple shield. just for one or two feedings until I can handle it again. I really wanted to avoid using anything like bottles or pacifiers or shields, but the lactation consultant I saw told me to go ahead and use the shields as a I needed, because anything that helps you breast feed longer is worth it.

There are many things it could be. Your best bet is to go in and get them looked at. Once my baby gave me a yeast infection in my nipple. It caused terrible pain and I finally went in to get it checked and the doctor could tell immediately what it was and he put me on medication. I felt completely better in 24 hours. If the pain is that bad, then get it checked. If it turns out to be just nipple pain, then meet with a lactation specialist to get help. Don't give up. You will be glad you stuck it out.

E., mother of 5 boys

FOR IMMEDIATE PAIN RELIEF:

In addition to checking with a lactation specialist AND seeing if you have thrush, you need to make sure your nipples have a chance to heal between nursings.

Even a cotton nursing pad with lanolin ointment was not enough nipple "protection" between feedings when my daughter started biting me while she was teething. My nipples hurt SOOOOO much!

I had to get the TheraShield (basically a nipple protector) by Medela (in their Breast Care section) before my nipples started healing. Not having ANY fabric rubbing against my nipples at all gave almost immediate relief.

Just be sure to take BOTH of them off before you nurse. (If you leave one on while you nurse from the other breast, it will fill with milk!)

www.medelabreastfeedingus.com/products

Your local baby store should have these. Call ahead and ask for one to be brought to the customer service counter for you (while you wait on the phone - just to make sure they have it in stock.)

I had a very similar experience. So many mom's that I spoke with had terrible pain with breastfeeding for at least a month and often more. All the books and websites tell you its unusual. You should talk to a breastfeeding support service at the hospital or other health center, but from my experience, it is totally normal. I think a lot of people don't want to admit that its normal because it might mean that less women work through it and give up nursing early, which of course is not the best thing for the baby. My pain with nursing went away after about 4 or 5 weeks. Keep going!

Definitely see a lactation consultant if it doesn't get better, because it is worth it. I had some nipple pain on one side too this early, and what finally seemed to make it go away was applying a mixture of antibacterial cream, cortisone cream and antifungal cream to the nipple in between feedings, being careful to wash it off before a feeding. I figured there must have been some tiny irritant in there. That or it just ended up getting better for whatever reason. Good luck, hang in there, you can make it work for you, I know it.

Oh my gosh, I feel your pain! I went through the same exact thing! My best friend was a product called lanolin! Its a natural cream that you put on your nipples and it is safe for the babý. It costs about 10 bucks at target but it is so worth it! You just apply a generous amount pretty much all day until they start feeling better, and don't worry if there is still a little on you when your baby nurses, it won't hurt her. When I found this product I was so relieved because like you, I would just want to cry when my son would latch on! And he was nursing perfectly so that wasn't the problem. I'm telling you, go get some lanolin and after just a couple times of using it you will notice a difference. There are several brands but I prefer one that comes in a yellow tube and I think its called like lanol10 or lanol25 or something (its been a while). But other brands are just fine. Well, good luck and let me know how it works out! Hope ya feel better :)

Hi, I breastfed 3 babies..Don't give up! It is normal. Seems like everytime I started I forgot how bad it hurt to get used to it again. Your nipples will toughen up and the pain WILL completely go away, you can hang. You will be so glad you did.God Bless

Hi A.,

I had a horrible time nursing my first son. We never did get his latch right and I was sore, in pain and bleeding from cracked nipples. I stuck it out for two months and then couldn't do it anymore. I went to many lactation consultants and the doctor for help. But in the end his mouth was just too small to get a proper latch (he was also premature). That being said, I nursed my second child until 14 months and it was wonderful. I never had any pain at all. I knew what I was doing a little better, studied up on breast feeding before the birth, and met with lactation consultants at the hospital right away. So I know what a difference a proper latch can make.

I think first of all you should see your doctor and get checked out for thrush. Because with the pain you are having in between feedings it sounds like that might be the case. Once you rule out anything medical you need to go and see a lactation consultant in your area and get some help making sure your baby is latched on properly. Lanolin lotion is amazing to help and heal cracked nipples. If you put it on before nursing it will help with the irritation while the baby is feeding and then after it will help you heal. You don't need a lot. A little goes a long way.

It will take you a while to heal once the latch is corrected. I wish you all the luck in the world to get through this. I know what you are going through and how hard it is.

M.

Hi A.,

First, great job for keeping at it as long as you have! Though it seems that breasfeeding is natural and easy for everyone, in fact it's very common for it to be difficult and painful, even when you (and the baby) are doing everything right. That's not to be discouraging, just to let you know you're not the only one experiencing problems.

First, have you seen a breastfeeding consultant? They may be able to help. There are several products that might help: lanolin cream, Soothies gel pads (use the ones sold at Walgreens--they last up to three days rather than a few hours), nipple guards or even plastic shells to protect your nipples between feedings. I had problems and tried them all--all of these helped me to some extent.

In my case, my nipples were cracked and bleeding after the first week, and the pain each feeding was excrutiating and kept getting worse. I know how you feel. I switched to formula at five weeks and never looked back--and I have a healthy, happy 7-mo old to show for it! You can try pumping and feeding with a bottle if it gets to be too much, or just substituting one feeding per day with formula to let your nipples rest. If you feel like you can't go on, though, switch to formula and don't feel guilty for a minute. Studies have shown infants get most of the immunity and other benefits of breastmilk by the six-week point; switching to formula after that should cause no guilt. Either way, you know what's best for you and your baby. Go with your gut and don't let anyone else pressure you either way. Good luck!

J.

HI, My name is H. and Im currently breastfeeding my second child. About 2 months ago I had really bad pain on my right side only (bordering on excruciating!) My doctor was clueless and prescribed antibiotics. Well it turns out that I had a yeast infection (Thrush) and the antibiotics made it worse. The treatment was a sticky liquid on my nipples 4 times a day called Nystatin. It worked but my nipples were always wet and one side got a deep crack that still isn't all the way healed two months later. I had to take Vicodin for a month. The pain was unreal. I'm not trying to scare you, I just want you to make sure you get in diagnosed properly and soon! My son somehow transfered the infection to the other breast without getting Thrush himself.Most of all don't give up. Breast feeding is the most important and beautiful thing you can do. Good Luck!

Hang in there. Don't give up. It's one of the best memories I have of my son as an infant. You may want to see a lactating consultant or talk to your Pediatrician. I saw a lactating consultant and she helped me and my Husband with correct positioning. For a few days my Husband helped me correctly position our son. My nipples were so tender and they even started to peel. I tried some ointment to help soothe them. It's very tough at first for some Moms, but eventually you'll get it. It also saves hundreds of dollars and the bonding is well worth the discomfort.

Pain during the first couple weeks is normal, but at one month, it shouldn't hurt anymore. My first thought is that there is something wrong with the way your daughter is latching on. If you don't see a visible problem, my second thought would be to find out if she is tongue-tied. My second son is, and I didn't think I would be able to continue nursing him it hurt so bad! I ended up getting really sick and losing almost all of my milk, so he had to learn how to nurse properly to get all that was there, or else go hungry! Talk to your daughter's pediatrician, or your doctor, or see a lactation consultant just to make sure everything is right.

In the mean time, you could try warm or cold compresses on your nipples (whichever feel better for you), and see if that helps.

It doesn't sound like you have thrush. I've had it twice, though neither of my sons got it. Go figure! Thrush is a red, itchy rash that is constantly annoying, not something that gets better or worse throughout the day.

Good luck finding out what's wrong!

I used a breast shield for over 4 months and never had any pain or problems. A lot of people say it is an inconvenience, but I didn't feel that way.

Sounds like thrush. I currently have it too, it's really
painful. Don't give up on the breastfeeding, go see your doctor first. Then take the baby to her doctor and explain that you have thrush and that you'd like to treat the baby for thrush. Everything I've read says you need to treat both the mom and baby otherwise you'll end up passing it back and forth. Here's a website with some good info:

http://www.breastfeed-essentials.com/thrush.html

Hi A.,

Congrats on the birth of your daugther. I have a 6 week old and had a tough time in the beginning and still till this day having feeding issues. Don't let the issues you are dealing with scare you away from breast feeding. We all know the benefits of it. However, you need to do what is best for you and your family.

My son had a tough time in the hospital when it came to latching on due to his mouth being small and my nipples being very small w/ large full breasts. It got easier once I got home because we both figured out how to make it work. Plus it was very painful for me since i had a c-section.

As everyone tells you, your nipples will toughen up over time. Mine haven't. I even started dealing with really sore nipples when i would pump too, and not have my son latch on. It should not hurt regardless. If done properly, latching on shouldn't hurt at all (nipples included). I can honestly say my son did latch on a few times where no pain was felt. It was a awesome experience. Sadly, it only occured two times.

The pain you feel is normal, unfortunately. Its a matter of what your pain tolerance is and if you choose to deal with how uncomfortable you will be at each feeding. Some mothers get to tears as they feed. Reality of breastfeeding.

Use cold compresses, warm showers, lots of cream on your nipples and use breast pads and bra pads to prevent your bra from rubbing to avoid more irritation.

The other thing I can suggest is to pump between feedings. This will also help your nipples too. I decided to give it a try and found my nipples to stop hurting by allowing my son at the breast a few times a day in between my pumping. To my surprise, my nipples stopped hurting. Oddly enough, my son developed thrush :(

Thrush is a white film (looks like white pin needle spots on the tongue) that does not come off if you rub it. It will first start on the tongue then slowly spread onto the upper/lower lips then inside on both cheeks. Your daugther will not be in pain if she has it, but will have a different smell to her breath (almost like a salty smell). This is how I knew something was up. Being a NEW mom, I didn't even know what thrush was or know what to look for in my son's mouth to see if he had it.

The only reason i knew he had it, was a dr. asked me if he had white stuff on his tongue (called about his bowel movements and found he had another issue). At first i thought it was from his breast milk/formula. Two days later i did look it up online and sure enough, he had it :( poor thing.

Back to the breastfeeding...keep working at it with your daughter. If you have to, supplement a day or two with just formula to give your sore nipples a break. Give them a spa treatment so to speak. This will NOT hurt your daughter. That is if she will even accept the nipple. My son didn't have any issues taking the bottle or get breast nipple confusion like some babies do. He did get a bit lazy at the breast since he really didn't need to work with the nipple on the bottle. Overall, he did fine between the transition.

Good luck and stick it out for however long YOU can. In the end, its your body, your decision what you choose to do. There is no wrong in quiting. Also do not feel guilty, its a VERY VERY common issue with breastfeeding.

I can totally relate to your issue with being sore. Everytime my baby girl nursed for the first 4-6 weeks(right when she latched on) it felt like a thousand needles being jamed into my nipple area. I used the Lashon pain relif cream (safe for babies..so you don't have to wash it off everytime you being to nurse) and my husband also purchased for me Cool Gel breast pads. I can not remember the brand name, but he found them by the nursing pads/cream etc. and I would put them in the fridge for 20 mins. and then place in my bra and it was such a relif... hang in there, it does get eaiser I promise.

Good Luck,
J.