E.M. asks from Boulder, CO on February 09, 2011
Bottom of the Barrel Teacher--Complain?
So my daughter goes to a public preschool (for free because she has an IEP for ADHD). I was told that there would be an occupational therapist in the room, a child psychologist, a speech therapist etc. There is a "Lead" teacher and two aides so since there is usually one specialist in the room every day, that is four adults to like 12 kids. Pretty good. When we accepted the spot in the class last spring, we met the Lead Teacher. She was wonderful--also had a young daughter with ADHD--seemed really great. Well, we she left over the summer and we got a new Lead Teacher, sight unseen. I thought, no big deal, I am sure she'll be great.
Well, since school started in late August, I have been so dismayed and disappointed in the teacher, the system and the school. BUT, after talking to parents who had the last teacher and are now in the class with new teacher, I am pretty convinced the problem is the new teacher. The teacher is SO unprofessional. She whines and complains to the aides, the parents etc. constantly about everything about how she isn't feeling well, about her commute, about her other job etc etc etc. Poor Me. Poor Me. Poor. She has been "out sick" between 7 and 8 days this year--not in a row like a major illness, but once or twice a moth at least. If you are even a few minutes late to pick up your child, she is visibly unhappy and makes a point to complain in front of other parents about "how child A's parents are late" and how inconvenient it is for her etc. etc. There is no feedback about my child's progress, strengths or weaknesses, challenges or daily achievments. We have had one "parent meeting" this year which was in January and lasted 20 minutes. None of the specialists were present, just this teacher and it started late but ended right on time, if you know what I mean. This woman is about to "Staff out" my daughter from special ed--which is great but I don't trust her opinion at all because she seems so disconnected from the kids and the parents both. There is no parent involvement asked for or encouraged--in fact, it seems like she runs the classroom like a convenience store--everything is done at her convenience and that means your kid is dropped off when the doors open, picked up and good-bye that's it. When I asked her about getting my daughter a temporary bus pass during my c-section/hernia surgery recovery, she said she would try but made sure to let me know how much paperwork it would be for her.
I don't know the names or have a relationship with any of the specialists--nor have I ever been offered a chance to meet with them or get a progress report--do I need to ask for one? I guess I just assumed it would be part of the deal. I don't even know if they work with her at all one on one or not or if they just help the kids sort of like zone defense as opposed to man to man.
Do I say something to her superiors? I don't know if it is just a matter of our styles being very different or if I have a legitimate complaint. I was talking to a mom with an autistic child in the class and she considers this year a "waste" for her son with this new teacher, as they had the old teacher for two years previously. She is not planning on complaining-just getting him out of there as he will be in kindergarten next year, as will my daughter, and in a different school, thank goodness.
So What Happened?™
I have an appointment to talk to the principal next week. I really do not want to go in and bash this woman so I am going to be as diplomatic as possible but unfortunately, if there anything good to say about this woman, I can honestly say I have not seen evidence of it first hand. She is helping me get the temporary bus pass which is nice of her--and surprisingly, the front office has nothing to do with it since the only preschoolers who ride the bus do not have transportation of their own (state funded tuition kids) or have a physical disability. So it is a big deal for them to make an exception for me (so annoying) even though I really will be unable to drag my five year old, two year old and newborn down two long halls after three surgeries.
Yesterday, her first day being back after two sick days, when I was leaving she said to my two year old "Have good nap, Kate, I wish I was joining you," in a whiney voice. Great, I am leaving my special needs 5 year old with a lead teacher who just told us all she'd rather be napping. Super professional. And I realize, just because she is whiney and unprofessional in front of the parents, doesn't mean she isn't good with the kids behind closed doors. But I really have no idea.
I've decided that me sitting down with her one on one is not the best way to handle this--though I don't doubt that some could handle it very gracefully! I think it is best when people hear criticism or complaints from a neutral or second party because I am probably the only one saying anything (the majority of the other parents do not speak English very well at all which is why their kids are in the preschool and are also state funded so their kids take the bus and I have never even seen them at the school). I don't want my kid treated differently because her mother isn't "happy" and it would be awkward to drop her off and pick her up every day after that. I don't feel like it is my place to sit down with the teacher and tell her she isn't conducting herself like a professional or that she is just really falling short and doing the minimum. Neither or those things are against the law...it's just really disappointing to have to send your kid in to her classroom every day. I expect more. But I have also realized, this is probably the first of many teachers that I will not be crazy about--I will love some and not like others as well--personality differences and styles aside, I do have expectations that I will be sure are being met for the sake of my kids.
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S.C. answers from Norfolk on February 09, 2011
I'm a teacher. COMPLAIN! Chances are her superiors have no idea because no one ever says anything. Everyone things someone else has said something. Unfortunately, there are bad teachers out there that don't belong in the classroom but no one will ever know unless you tell. Definitely tell someone!
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M.B. answers from Washington DC on February 09, 2011
Oh yes, I'd say something right away. You have plenty of stuff to say about her. To me you have several legitimate complaints. You may not only just help your own child by saying something, but many other children. The administration NEEDS to know about the teachers.
I live all the way on the other side of the country, but the three schools my children have been to, two public, one private... have ALL encouraged volunteering at the school. Is this something you can do, or something the school does? Even just once or twice. You really get to know the teachers when you are actually there in the classroom helping. If you can, I highly recommend it. It would give you a much better idea about the teacher(s).
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M.P. answers from Pittsburgh on February 09, 2011
Of course you should say something. No offense, but one of the pet peeves that I have is that everyone wants to complain but nobody wants to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!! Seriously, If I had a nickel for everyone like you who tells me how upset they are about something going on within the school or district and when I tell them who to talk to about it-do they? NO!!!! I then do not feel sorry for them. And this is precisely why THINGS NEVER CHANGE!!!
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L.T. answers from Chicago on February 09, 2011
You are your child advocate! Remenber that - you are the one that has to make sure they are doing right by her! If this teacher is not working for you it is ok to sit down and voice your concerns! Make sure you do it in a way that is professional and out of concern for your child.
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S.H. answers from Honolulu on February 09, 2011
Yes say something. This is unacceptable. Unprofessional.
In my daughter's school, per a child who has in IEP/in-school Aide etc., they do communicate with the parents or meet with them regularly and get a progress report etc.
Since you are NOT getting one nor any or this, you NEED to speak up and ask for it and tell them.
It may not be the 'school' that is at fault, but just an unlucky draw of the coin and who you got as a 'lead teacher' and school Aides.
My Daughter goes to public school, and at her school and per Moms I know whose child does have an IEP/treatment team/Aides/Psychologist etc., they have not seen this happen.
Again, to me this is a problem of the new Lead Teacher. Not the school per say. That Teacher seems real unstable.
Just speak up.
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S.C. answers from Norfolk on February 09, 2011
I'm a teacher. COMPLAIN! Chances are her superiors have no idea because no one ever says anything. Everyone things someone else has said something. Unfortunately, there are bad teachers out there that don't belong in the classroom but no one will ever know unless you tell. Definitely tell someone!
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E.A. answers from Erie on February 09, 2011
You have legitimate concerns. You aren't getting regular updates on her progress so you don't know if she is meeting her goals. Although it is not common for aides and specialists to be present at a parent-teacher conference, it is not unreasonable to ask for a meeting with the entire team. Go to the office staff with help with the bus pass. Write a letter to the teacher requesting the meeting (email is best, then you have a record of any conversation) and cc the principal. By law they have to accommodate you. Bring her original IEP with you to the meeting and make them go down the list of goals, explaining to you how her needs are being met to reach these goals. Question the entire staff about any specific accommodations that are in her IEP. Bring a list of written questions/concerns, and prepare to take notes while you are there.
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G.T. answers from Modesto on February 09, 2011
You probably should say something, she wont learn to "skill up" if the parents dont make a beef and she doesnt get a reprimand.
K.M. answers from Kansas City on February 09, 2011
Yes, complain! You still have a few more months of school and your daughter needs to be in a better environment. You probably won't get a new teacher, but the one she has needs to "shape-up".
Also, your IEP is a legally binding document. If the document says your daughter needs 30 minutes of physical therapy a week, the school is legally required to do it. Also, if it is a public school, you should have access to the classroom (open door policy?). I would request a formal IEP meeting (you are legally allowed to do so and they have like 10 school days to meet your request). At that meeting you need to request the teacher, any specialists that the IEP states your daughter received services from, and a principal/asst. principal.
This is your daughter's education and you're setting the foundation for the next 13+ years of school. Get in there and shake things up!!!!
Good Luck!
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