M.S. asks from Stevenson, WA on June 28, 2010
Blending near Empty Nest with 7 Year Old Every Other Weekend
I am 40 and had my 3 kids by the time I was 23, he is 50, he had his first and only child at 43, I am nearly done, he has just begun. His ex is convinced that I am manipulating him and that we are in too much of a hurry to introduce me to his little girl. The intent was at six months into our relationship. We are at the five month mark and we feel very sure that we are serious. Mind you , she may not have known how long we have been seeing eachother. She even has done some good old fashioned small town gossip style research on me and believes I am estranged from all my kids. For one, my sons, one in college and the other about to join the Army, When they are home, they have friends over and we talk about things, we are on great terms.... My daughter just recently broke her vow of silence with me after a year. She is living with her dad as she finishes high school and is seriously considering moving back in with me. I want to know if there is any hope of this woman learning the real story about me and perhaps possibly liking me. She hates me and only knows things from a very skewed perspective. What will it take to help her open her eyes. She is borderline threatening to keep the daughter away from him too.
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so far I was appalled from some of these answers.... but I step back and look again and see that my information was not very specific and some readers and answerers may get in a frenzy thinking of their own life experiences.
My Boyfriend and I talk about everything and sometimes over analyze, which may create its own demons. I am seeking professional advice. I will be drafting my questions and concerns regarding all aspects of these issues. As for me meeting his daughter, I may wait until the seven month mark if I have to.
Thoughts of moving in together will adjust around all involved. He and I spend every free moment together and look forward to seeing eachother as soon as possible. He has been separated for more than 2 yrs and divorced for over a year. I did no know him until 5 months ago. I am not the homewrecker.... LOL!
I love this man, he makes my best better. I do the same for him. Neither one of us have found anyone so tailored to a "T" as we have in eachother, so I feel its important that His ex and I find some form of communication and understanding, I dont need her to love me, I just don't want her to jerk the little one around because of me. He is a great father, very attentive and cautious and nurturing. Knowing this about him makes my heart break to think that his ex may do something rash since I am now in the picture.
I am awaiting to hear if my daughter has talked to her father, she and I had a very long chat yesterday. She knows the rules and structure will be different if and when she comes back.
When more happens, I will update again.
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D.P. answers from Pittsburgh on June 28, 2010
Your post is confusing because it has NOTHING to do with the title!
Here are some thoughts:
1. You seem to feel persecuted by a woman that you've never met? Why is that? A new "mom" is something important going on in HER daughter's life. I would be suspicious of a mom who is not concerned about that.
2. You write that you "are at the five month mark and we feel very sure that we are serious" What does that mean? Serious about liking each other, seriously in love, serious enough to give dating another year? Serious enough to live together? Serious enough to get married?
If you're not getting married, I might not want that environment for my kid either. Like it or not, he has a 7 yo DAUGHTER who looks to dad to see the proper treatment of women. How will your living arrangement fit in with that?
3. What's the rush? If he is "serious" and "the one" what's another 6 mos or a year for the daughter to get to know you a little? In the scheme of life, that's a heartbeat.
4. Don't pre-judge his ex the way you feel she is pre-judging you. If I were you I would make this woman by new BFF right away. You know the drill, stepmother=responsibility. You both need to get on the same page with this precious child. Yes, I think with a common goal, a woman and an ex can have a good relationship. You don't have to "like" her, nor her, you. But if you can be friendly, communicative and trust each other that will be huge!
5. I doubt she can keep the daughter away from her ex just because she doesn't like you.
6. This man has at least another 10-11 year of responsibility (financial, emotional, psychological, etc.). Know that going in. He is correct if he puts her BEFORE you. If he doesn't, I'd run in the other direction.
My opinion, if your plan is to "move in together" and attempt to adjust to a.) baby mama drama, b.) your daughter moving back in and c.) living with a man you've dated for 5 months, I'd say you're crazy.
Waaaaaay more time needs to be invested and all of the above steps need to be done over time, not all at once. Your daughter and his daughter need to remain the #1 priorities right now.
If the plan is engagement, wedding, moving everyone under one roof, I think it needs to bve done very carefully and not rushed.
JMO. Good luck!
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J.W. answers from Seattle on June 29, 2010
What relationship are you hoping to develop and build upon? The one with his little girl or the one with his ex? It would be nice if you could all get together, sit down and break bread.... but these two got a divorce for some reason and she's not going to be happy if he's happy with any body. Skewed perspective? Do you share a circle of friends or acquaintances that would be able to dish whatever dirt you may have accumulated over the years? Everbody has dust bunnies under their bed, no one is without normal wear and tear. Hopefully you aren't the 'reason' (from her perspective) that their marriage failed. If you are, there isn't a snowball's chance in Hades that you will have a peaceful relationship.
Your relationships with your kids are your business. How your kids interact with the new guy in your life is more important to you than the one you're trying to establish with his ex. Congrats on re-establishing your lines of communication with your daughter. Hopefully she isn't playing you and your ex, what Daddy won't do/give/get, maybe Mom will after all this time and 'guilt'. Be cautious of the parent trap.
If you are living with this new man, your relationships with your kids, especially your daughter, could come into play. What does she, the ex, hope to gain by playing these games? Does she want sole physical custody, more child support, control over his life?
Hope things settle down and you and your guy are able to talk this all out between the two of you. That's the relation that matters the most here.
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T.N. answers from Albany on June 28, 2010
Hmmm, I wonder whether there's any hope YOU'LL learn the REAL story about you.....Your guy's relationship with his child is his own....has nothing to do with you....this post reads like you have managed to BLAME every person in your life for your own issues except yourself....very interesting...I think you would benefit VERY much from some counseling, you seem fixated on EVERYONE ELSE'S behavior....
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L.G. answers from Eugene on June 29, 2010
M.
The woman isn't borderline. She is certifiable. Some women cannot handle the rejection of a divorce even when they are the one who ended the relationship. All their personal emotional material of a life time begins to surface and focus on their ex-husband. The same is true of men.
You are not you to her. You are an opponent who has had to audacity to enter the life of her man. She intended to keep him on ice forever.
Women like her use the child as a weapon. Your new man needs a court order for his visits with the daughter. He has a perfect right to introduce her to you and for his daughter to spend the weekends with him wherever he chooses.
That said unless your boyfriend can have the two of you meet in a creative way and let each of you get to know the other you are stuck in her picture of you.
When you do meet be friendly talk with her and be welcoming.
Good luck. You will need it.
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I.A. answers from Seattle on June 29, 2010
First of all, this kind of relationships are quite trying but when you love someone, you are willing to go the extra mile. For this lady to feel secure and peaceful about her daughter coming over to your house, you have to prove yourself. Sometimes actions speak louder than words, if you treat the girl well, she will go back to her mother and re-assure her you are not as bad as she thinks. Treat the girl like your own and at 7 years she might not be old enough to talk to and explain things just be nice to her.
When the mother realises you are not a bad person she will come around, then you can talk and get to know each other.
Good luck and hope things go well with you all.
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J.C. answers from Anchorage on June 29, 2010
It can be hard when an ex finds someone new to love. Even though we are out of the picture, we do not like the idea that we are replaceable, or that he may even love her more than he did us. At this point I do not think getting to know the real you will make much difference, you are her replacement and she is having a hard time dealing with that fact. Just keep loving your man, and when the time comes, love that little girl. If she is threatening not allowing visitation, than he needs to get the courts involved and get an iron clad custody and visitation plan laid out. Best of luck to you. With time hopefully she will see that having an extra person to love her only adds to her daughters life!
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W.C. answers from Seattle on June 29, 2010
Nothing will make her like you. Nothing will let her keep her daughter away from your man. It is just very complicated, messy, and painful. Know that going in. Talk it over with your man again and again--it will be the only way the two of you will make it through.
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N.B. answers from Toledo on June 28, 2010
I would take the direct approach. Call her and invite her out to lunch so you can get to know each other. At lunch, simply say that you would like her to get to know you, so she can feel comfortable that you both have her daughter's best interests in mind. Ignore what you think she's heard about you. If she asks about your kids, be honest. We've all made mistakes raising our kids. Hopefully, we learn from them. Talk about what she wants you to do when you spend time with the girl, what her rules are, how she punishes, anything to show her that you are not a threat to her relationship with her daughter, or her daughter's relationship with her dad. You are only interested in being a supportive friend. And MEAN it.
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