M.F. asks from Novi, MI on June 13, 2009
Bleeding but Still a Heartbeat?
I am hoping you can help me understand this. I am about 9 weeks pregnant w/baby number 3. I had not one single problem with my previous two pregnancies resulting in two healthy girls.
Suddenly I find myself searching for answers I can't seem to find.
About three weeks ago I started spotting. Nothin heavy or bright red...more like a dark brown discharge. A week before this started happening I was told my hormone levels were low and had to be tested again. The same week I was spotting I was told my levels are going up but not enough. When I got my untrasound a few days later there was a very strong hearbeat and no signs of uterine or baby distress. However...given my low levels and my spotting my doc wanted me to come back in another week to take another look.
The spotting stopped for about five days and then this past Wednesday I started to actually bleed! Needless to say I freaked and had to go to the hospital. I was sent to fetal inaging where both the baby and uterus looked wonderful. Strong heartbeat again and the tech said there was no bleeding coming from my uterus and that it was probably coming from some place else.
Yesterday I went to my doctor for yet another ultrasound and I immediately noticed a significant difference in the size of my baby's home. The whomb seems to be shrinking or collapsing. My doctor noticed as well and told me that she is not very optimistic even though there is a good heartbeat still. I saw the little guy move too. She has put me on bedrest but says my whomb is collapsing around that baby and there is nothing we can do now except rest and hope. She says she had seen things like this turn themselves around but I don't know what to think. She was tempted to give me progesterone but all in the same breath said she thinks it will just prolong the inevitable and that all that will happen is that we will lose the baby later instead of sooner.
I have never heard of this happening...a heartbean but an inevitable misscarriage. I have had four people around me lose their babies in the past year...three of which were early and one was at five months. Those who lost early all said that they started spotting then bleeding and when an ultrasound was performed there was no heartbeat and the baby had stopped growing.
I can understand that, but I can't understand why my baby seems to be thriving dispite what's happening with my body. It's killing me to know that his little heart is still beating and he's dancing around in there only to meet an untimely demise.
Has anyone experienced anything like this? If so what was the cause and outcome? I am so confused and scared and can't stand feeling that sense of hopelessness because there is nothing I can do! I am left to sit and wonder. I can't even take care of my two daughters!
Please...help me...anything will help...good, bad, whatever...please.
So What Happened?™
Let me start by saying thank you to everyone for your kind words and for sharing your stories with me. I had planned to call my old doctor today after my appointment this morning. Unfortunately when I saw the untrasound there was no hearbeat, and the embryonic sack had completely collapsed around my baby. I will have a D & C tomorrow morning and my little guy will be sent off to the lab to see what exactly could have caused the miscarriage. In all this turmoil I forgot to ask about the sub-chronic bleed. I will be inquiring tomorrow morning before my surgery.
Thank you again for all of your thoughts and prayers. I know things will be okay as my baby is now in heaven with my wonderful mother.
K.L. answers from Detroit on June 14, 2009
Hi.....I am so sorry to hear what you are going through...I know and understand how you are feeling. I have had 5 pregnancies, 3 of which resulted in my beautiful children but two of which ended in m/c. However I bled with ALL of them and was told that I would likely miscarry. Especially with my first, without going into too much detail I bled ALOT (I was around 7 weeks-and bled until about 11 weeks) and had all the u/s and tests done and was told to take it easy and rest...I had a sub-chorionic (sp?) bleed....I was convinced I was losing him....turned out I didnt and he is now 6 years old. My next pregnacy ended in m/c at about 7 weeks...it was a VERY heavy period with LOTS of cramps and I knew there was no point in going to the doctor. Pregnancy number 3 I was diagnosed finally with low progesterone and started taking progesterone suppositories from 4 weeks as soon as I found out I was pregnant. I had slight spotting but all went OK and my daughter is now 4. Pregnancy number 4 was my worst - I took progesterone as soon as I found out I was pregnant and all was well until about 6/7 weeks when once again I started bleeding. As with the others I had all the tests, saw heartbeat good and string etc etc. I was told to take it easy and so I put myself on bedrest. The bleeding stopped a couple of weeks later. Then when I was around 12 weeks I started bleeding again and this time I was passing grey matter (not good). I went to the ER and basically there was no heartbeat and I had had what they called a mis miscarriage where the baby dies and you dont pass it out. I had a D and C and they later told me that the baby probably died around 9 weeks (they could tell because of the size) and that it wasnt properly formed so they thought that was why I m/c. I think I carried it until 12 weeks because of the progesterone. My last pregnancy was fine and I had a healthy boy (I took progesterone again).
So I guess by telling you my story I wanted to let you know that
1- there is still hope....all your symptoms sound like my first pregnancy which ended up OK.
2-There is really nothing you can do, by me going on bedrest and taking progesterone I proglonged the inevitable with pregnancy number 4 which ended in m/c anyway due to the baby and how it developed....but by taking progesterone I helped my other pregnancies.
Good luck and hang in there...what will be will be and there is nothing you can do to change it if this baby is not meant to be,
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T.P. answers from Saginaw on June 13, 2009
Have never went through this So all I can offer is my thoughts and prayers for you and your unborn baby.
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A.I. answers from Lansing on June 13, 2009
have no idea whay you are going thur but being a mother of 5 girls my hart goes out to you i hope all goes well for you try to rest and no your body will take of you and baby remeber stress is never good i will keep you in my prayers god bless
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G.A. answers from Kalamazoo on June 15, 2009
my youngest daughter had this with her last two boys and with bedrest and no sexual activities can stop she had what they called a ......sub-chronic hemeriage (?) not sure of the spelling.it is a tare or hole in the lining of the womb away from the utrin wall.....i'm not real sure on the spelling but i do know it can heal cause i have two living grand son to show and also my daughter in law went thru the same thing with her baby girl and she is fine. they went through alot of ultra sounds to amke sure it was healing and all and they did have tio stay for a short time bed rest. i hope this has helped you. I'm sorry I didn't read all the way down but, my thoughts are with you
K.M. answers from Detroit on June 14, 2009
I have miscarried four times each time things where different. I have also had 4 beautiful children. But doesn't mean I don't think of the others. The last one I misscaried i was 9 weeks but it showed six weeks.I really never heard of whats going on with u. but i would assume thats how most miscariages work. It just seems weird your dr. wouldn't do everything possible to save it. i would demand to be put on protesterone. who knows other than god. the hormone with bed rest could turn it around. I fell bad for you. I will pray for you and hope god c an change the out come. I have heard of people having periods with pregnancy. I have also heard of people having the bleeding from the placenta because of a blood sac and the sac was a little smaller at first but than they had a beautiful baby. So maybe there is that going on. But do bed rest and what they say because if you don't you will misscarry. So no lifting anything but a gallon of milk and make sure your husbad knows you need to sit on your bumb. The kids are going to be hard with it but it will all work out. for the best and whatever god wants its all up to him which sometimes stinks but theres reasons why. Maybe theres a sign behind it. Good Luck and god bless!!
G.B. answers from Detroit on June 14, 2009
D.G. answers from Detroit on June 13, 2009
I do have an idea of what you are going through - I had a similar situation almost two years ago to the day. I started out spotting as well (it was probably about 9 or 10 weeks for me too) and then progressed to bleeding with a very healthy heartbeat and healthy looking baby. I do not recall there being anything with the womb shrinking but they called the bleeding a sub-chorionic bleed which (I hope I'm explaining this correctly) basically meant there was a tear between the lining of the uterus and the placenta, or that it wasn't fully attached. They told me that this would usually correct itself or go away. There were a number of times that we thought I had miscarried but did not but I was bleeding more then than during a normal period. It's a difficult time and I would recommend you accept whatever help you can from family and friends so that you can stay on the bed rest. If you are not satisfied with the answers your doctor is giving you ask for a referral to a maternal fetal medicine specialist at your hospital.
My doctors had also told me to go home and hope and pray. And I prayed my heart out! I really feel for you because I had an almost two year old and it was so hard because I had to rely on others to care for her and put her down for naps but just know that this is a short time in the grand scheme of things and your girls will probably not remember this time. I would read my daughter stories and watch shows with her on the couch. I will tell you - as I respond to your internet request...I found that people did not post happy stories on the internet, they most often only post unhappy ones so if you can keep yourself from reading all of the different websites it might help your stress level. I do have a beautiful little boy now and thank God for him every day. I adore him. Stay positive and pray. The worst news I found was that the doctors are not God and can't fix everything and you desperately want them to. But when they couldn't heal me or the baby I knew there was a God who could.
My docs all told me the bleeding eventually goes away. I won't go in to detail about my whole pregnancy but I will say I have a beautiful little boy now and we celebrate every time he has a new word, walks, and all of that good stuff. Feel free to email me any time if you have more questions or need some encouragement! I will keep you, your sweet baby, and your family in my prayers.
K.A. answers from Detroit on June 14, 2009
M., like so many of us we have not heard of what they dr was saying. But there are alot of women who do bleed while pregnant. I didn't really with my first, but my 2nd I did after week 5. I knew in my heart of heart that I could not change what would happen at so early of a stage when I knew that women who were having babies when I was born didn't even know they were pregnant til they were 9-16 weeks along. We find out now way to early and all we can do is worry. I am Rh- so I also knew my risks were a little more and I was getting shots to block any potential side affects just in case the babies blood was fighting mine. He is now 2 1/2 and a joy to be with. There is only one divine that can give you the strength that you need to get through this. Enjoy your children, get the needed rest and have faith that nothing that you cannot handle is put on your plate. My mom had twins at 21 weeks in 1978, yes 1 made it, the other not, but it is not in our hands on what happens. Medicine can only do so much. Hard to tell that I am not a true believer but I have learned that things happen for a reason. If the babies heart beat is strong, believe that he is a fighter and give yourself and your body a break from the stress. He is giving you joy now and you are lucky to experience this whether it is good or bad, some don't get the chance to experience it. I will pray for you and your family.