L.C. asks from Vancouver, WA on July 29, 2009
Big Girl Bed in New Room Transition
For the last few weeks or so, we have been working on getting our 22 month old daughter a big girl bed and room. Last Saturday she took her first nap in there all the while making a big deal of her big girl room. I stayed in their with her until she was asleep because it was a big move for all of us, however, I'm not ok with that becoming a routine. Sunday, she napped and went to bed in her big girl room and again, we ended up staying with her because she sits up and starts screaming the second we close the door then gets out of bed to scream at the door. A few times, when we sit by her she starts to play which is frustrating. Last night, it took us 1 1/2 hours to get her to sleep in her room which consisted of our normal bedtime routine, telling her we'd be in the kitchen, saying goodnight as I stepped outside the door, and she starts screaming. We would let her cry for 5 minutes and then go back in and soothe her while putting her back to bed. Towards the end, both my husband and I tried to lay with her because we were exhausted of the whole ordeal and frustrated thinking she was manipulating the situation. Finally, we put her in the pack-n-play and let her cry herself to sleep. I want to teach her to stay in her bed, I want her to go to sleep happy like she used to, I refuse to stay in there with her until she falls asleep for each nap and bedtime, and we need help. Is it too much to teach her to stay in bed while having her transition to another room and a big girl bed all at once? Any ideas of how to make the transition easier and less traumatic?
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L.C. answers from Spokane on July 30, 2009
I did go through this, but with both of my children, the closing of the door, was the downfall. If I left the door open they would go to sleep. Even if I closed it after they were asleep they would wake up & scream. With my daughter before her brother was born we worked on her & her special bed. Just could never close that bedroom door.
I hope this helps.
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A.S. answers from Eugene on July 30, 2009
She is already going through a HUGE transition with having a new brother! I wouldn't put her through any more transitions now. I know this isn't what you are asking, but I really believe the family bed is by far the best way to go. She would feel included and not left out. She is probably terrified that she has been "replaced" by the new baby. She needs lots of reassurance and touch and comfort! If you do insist on getting her to at least start out the night in her own room, I would highly recommend lying down with her and snuggling/singing/story-telling her to sleep. I nursed mine to sleep until they were at least 3 years old, then snuggled them to sleep for a few years after that. She NEEDS you, that is why she protests being abandoned! Especially if you are planning on returning to work again, she needs all the connection and reassurance she can get.
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L.G. answers from Eugene on July 30, 2009
A big cold shower to you and your wonderful husband and father. Neither of you has a whip of common sense. You have a new baby 11 weeks old. A son at last and now you move her out of your room into her own room? Do you know anything about a small child's feelings. This is major rejection in a child's mind.
Put her back in your room for a few months until she's ready. For goodness sake she is only 22 months old.
I see patients who were so tramatized by parents who thought just like you. They never get over it. Read Ashley Montegue's book The Family Bed. You need another point of view though I would not go as far as he does in the togetherness. In other cultures nobody sleeps alone. Not the elderly and certainly no one under four years of age.
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M.M. answers from Seattle on July 30, 2009
If you are looking for easier right now, I would go ahead and let her sleep in the pak-n-play in the new room while she gets used to it, then move her into the new bed.
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L.C. answers from Spokane on July 30, 2009
I did go through this, but with both of my children, the closing of the door, was the downfall. If I left the door open they would go to sleep. Even if I closed it after they were asleep they would wake up & scream. With my daughter before her brother was born we worked on her & her special bed. Just could never close that bedroom door.
I hope this helps.
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M.L. answers from Seattle on July 30, 2009
We did the same transition with our daughter at about the same age, a little younger. If staying with her until she's asleep works right now, try that for 1-2 weeks. Then start leaving her a little more awake each night or nap. I also make sure that if my daughter is awake as I leave, I give her a kiss, tell her I love her, and don't look back as I shut the door behind me. It works SOOOOO much better than when I would talk to her as I was leaving.
R.N. answers from Eugene on July 30, 2009
We just completed the transition to a big girl bed for our 2 and a half year old. Shortly before our daughter turned two, we got a new crib (in anticipation of the birth of our new baby several months later). The crib's dropside could not be installed due to missing hardware, so for about a week she had to sleep in the toddler conversion of the crib. It was very disturbing to her, and meant a lot of sleepless nights like you've been experiencing. Once we got the hardware, we put it back to a crib (she just wasn't ready). In January of this year, we made a big deal of switching it to the toddler rail (she was 26 months). She learned to stay in bed until we got her (we only spanked twice). What made it different in the big switch to the twin bed (just occurred) is that it has always been set up in her room and she has napped on it every day (by choice). It was very hard (for me) to move her out of her special toddler bed to the twin. (I took lots of pictures!) In June we took a trip to Thomas the Tank Engine and a couple weeks after getting back I had a quilt made, special star sheets, and applique stickers to decorate the headboard and walls. We made a big deal about getting it ready. (In this process, we left her toddler bed as is.)
That first night, she slept in it very happily. 2nd night, on the floor with her special blanket and animals. 3rd night wanted the toddler bed. After that, she was happy to be in her Thomas train bed. About a week later, we worked together on her baby brother's bed, changing it back to the crib and setting up his sheets, mobile, etc. She was excited to do it. I think the big things that worked for us: 1) she stayed in her own room (small house; both kids in same room) 2) she could move over on her own timetable (within reason). We did not pressure her to make the switch, being gradual, it could be her own "decision" under our guidance. 3) she was already used to the twin from napping on it daily 4) I chose a theme that was "no-fail". She is so pleased to sleep with Thomas every night. Once her brother's crib was made up, we said, "No, that's his bed." We also did some rearranging so she has a little bookshelf by her bed with a lamp, her water bottle, and a place to put her pacifier. She feels really grown up.
We have only just in the last week started to put our 5-month-old in his crib in her room every night. My suggestion would be to take it slow, introduce only one new aspect every couple nights, and try to do it without pressure. She may be too young for all those changes right now. Is it possible to borrow another crib/bassinet to put in the nursery, and let your daughter have her crib in the new room with the other bed to get used to the whole idea?
Best of luck!
C.R. answers from Eugene on July 31, 2009
I agree that the harder you try to push her away the more she will fight you on this. It is counterproductive to your sanity and limited energy reserves right now to force her to adjust this quickly, and I really believe there is no way around the attention she needs right now. I think your current method is probably causing you twice the amount of work that just "giving in" to her will. Try to notice when you "give in" to her how much work that was for you and how well she handled it, and then compare it to trying to teach her independence by forcing her. I believe you may surprise yourself with the results. ;-) Good luck.
W.C. answers from Seattle on July 30, 2009
Tell her the rules first.
If you must sit in the room, don't talk to her, and only stay if she is in the bed and horizontal. You will read one story. The lights will be off, with a night light on, the door cracked, but not closed. You will not touch or talk to her.
Each night you move a little further from her bed. Just a bit and do it slowly.
Good luck. Congratulations on the new baby.
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