S.S. asks from Los Angeles, CA on March 24, 2010
Any Teachers Out There?
I'm thinking of becoming an elementary school teacher because I want a job that will allow me to be home earlier for my baby. I'm worried that I might not be a good fit with this job though. Are there any elementary teachers out there who could give me some insight as to what type of personality you should have, what your typical day is like, etc? Also, how much can you make as a kindergarden or elementary school teacher (I'm in CA)? What type of certification do you need (I have a bachelors in English and an MBA but neither of these are relevant!). Thanks!
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Thanks to everyone who gave such detailed answers. It was a TREMENDOUS help and I'm really appreciative of all the insights/advice/etc. I do indeed love kids and want to work with them but perhaps I was thinking erroneously in focusing on the schedule portion of a teaching job. Looks like its hard work with lots of time beyond 3pm required. I kind of already knew that but seeing it in black and white, detailed for me, has helped immensely. Thanks again moms :)
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S.B. answers from Dallas on March 24, 2010
I absolutely LOVED my time as a middle school teacher. I would love to be back in the classroom someday. It is a job that has more time off than most, Summer break, winter break, etc. So keep that in mind when you are looking at salary. These breaks may afford you more family time. Many teachers choose to work summer school and do training in the summer. But like other posters have mentioned, the days are much longer than one would think. I usually worked from 7:30 - 5:30 as a teacher. Not to mention the late nights that pop up - parent / teacher conferences, plays, choir events, open houses, chaperoning various events. A teacher needs to be patient and be able to go with the flow. You may have the greatest most time consuming lesson planned and it goes straight out the window when Johnny pulls the fire alarm or an assembly is called. And although you usually work independently in the classroom, you also need to be able and willing to work as a group.
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J.G. answers from San Antonio on March 24, 2010
I taught for 5 years before becoming a mom and now I stay at home with him and LOVE it. I've thought about going back to work, but it truly is a lot of work. YES you get summers/spring break/christmas break, but all the time in-between is work. You leave for work 6:00/6:30ish to avoid traffic and to get to school early to make copies, be "on duty" watching the kids in the cafeteria, or to have a parent-teacher conference. Then you work all day, only 20 minutes or so for lunch after you walk the kids to the cafeteria and then heat up your food. Then your conference time you're busy making copies (if the copier is working for you that day), or you're checking emails, or having a parent-teacher conference. In the afternoon, you can't just rush out to go pick up your daughter. Sometimes you'll either work the parent-pickup area or monitor kids getting on the buses. Then there's often a weekly (bi-weekly if you're lucky) faculty meeting that starts a few minutes after buses leave. Sometimes those last an hour or an hour and a half. THEN you get to grade papers or pack up and go home.
Like Tori said, not trying to be negative, but when I think about going back to work I think about how much time away from my son it'd be. By the time you got home, made dinner, gave the baby a bath, you'd get to spend maybe 1 hour, 2 hours with your baby. If you're like me, used to being home with him/her all day, I think this would be depressing! Then again, yes you get all summer long and weekends. An extra $50K or so a year in your pocket might be necessary for you. You could probably volunteer in a school. Ask if you can pair up with a teacher and help her/shadow her. Then you can see her typical day and hear her opinions on it all. I think you'd probably only need a background check. And having your degree is very helpful. Not sure how you get certified. Probably a few tests and/or maybe a few college courses. If you have to take courses, you'll probably have to 'work' or 'shadow' a teacher in the public schools anyways. Another thought: most subsitute teachers can be subs with just 60 hours of college credit. Maybe it's 90? Probably different in CA than in TX, but maybe you could try subbing for a week. You wouldn't have to do the after-school meetings, but would give you a taste of the school day/work load.
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L.C. answers from Orlando on March 24, 2010
I certainly hope you have more reasons for wanting to become a teacher than wanting to be "home earlier"!!! That's a huge insult to the teaching profession to think teaching means coming home early and summers off. Teachers change the lives of children. There is no set of personality traits that makes a good teacher, but dedication is certainly one. You may leave the building "early" in the day, but there is a lot of prep work involved outside of the normal teaching hours, plus meetings and trainings and continued education to keep your certificate. If you decide to become a teacher, I hope you do it for the right reasons -- otherwise it would be unfair to your students.
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J.A. answers from Sacramento on March 24, 2010
I was a teacher in CA for 10 years (elementary) and now stay home with my kids. Although the schedule looks nice...it is much more of a commitment then 8-3. There are many after school meetings, grading, prep work, ect. None of this can be done when the kids are there. I was rarely home before 5:00 or 5:30 (no commute for me...lived 2 miles from my job). (sadly though, a teachers pay is based on 8 to 3 or 4..depending on the district) I often brought work home to do in the evenings and usually went to work in the classroom at least twice a month on the weekend.
There are many different personalities that make great teachers...most of all you must love kids and see potential in all of them regardless of their backgrounds. You need to be organized and be willing to go the extra mile for your class or a certain student.
Since you already have a BA all you need is a teaching credential. Those programs vary, but are generally from 18 months to 2 years. Some programs allow you to work while you earn your credential. Since you do have your BA, you can apply for a emergency credential and substitute. I would highly recommend this before you get into a credential program. I have known some teachers who went through the credential program who had never worked in a classroom. Then got a classroom and decided it wasn't for them. You will need to take the CBEST, which is offered a couple of times a year. You can find a ton of info on the CBEST and CA credentialing on the internet.
I will let you know that right now is not the best time for teachers in CA to be looking for jobs. There have been over 20,000 laid off in CA recently (due to budget cuts and class sizes increasing). I have told my husband it is a good thing I am not looking for a job right now because I would not find one. There are a lot of experienced teachers who are looking for jobs.
Pay really depends on where you are...different parts of the state pay differently...probably a bit higher in the LA area. Starting pay in my area is about $36,000 to $40,000 right now I think.
I would try out substituting and see if you think you might enjoy it. Teaching and subbing are different, but you will at least get a feel for what it is like to be in a classroom. Subbing is great because once you leave you have no responsibilities and can go home and be with your family.
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K.J. answers from Chicago on March 24, 2010
Why do you call your BA in English irrelevant? If you were open to doing middle school or secondary ed, you could just pick up a Secondary Ed minor and earn certification for grades 6-12. Here in IL starting teachers can expect to earn anywhere from $33k-$42k. Teachers unions have pay scales based on your teaching experience and education level.
For specifics on teacher certification in your state, you will need to check with the CA State Board of Education. http://www.cde.ca.gov/pd/
A.N. answers from Los Angeles on March 24, 2010
I am not a teacher but I do work for the Department of Education. You need to have a teaching credential which includes student teaching time(you will have to attend classes and do the student teaching). If you have heard anything about the budget problems, now is not the time to become a teacher, as so many are being laid off at this time and more will continue to be laid off with the way our state is in debt. Maybe in a few years, it would be a good profession, but I would not suggest it at this time. The average teacher salary in Orange County and LA is very different. You can look the salaries up online, starting teachers make more if they have more credentials, such as your MBA. Go to a counselor at the school you would like to attend and have a meeting regarding your goal and see what they have to say.
S.B. answers from Dallas on March 24, 2010
I absolutely LOVED my time as a middle school teacher. I would love to be back in the classroom someday. It is a job that has more time off than most, Summer break, winter break, etc. So keep that in mind when you are looking at salary. These breaks may afford you more family time. Many teachers choose to work summer school and do training in the summer. But like other posters have mentioned, the days are much longer than one would think. I usually worked from 7:30 - 5:30 as a teacher. Not to mention the late nights that pop up - parent / teacher conferences, plays, choir events, open houses, chaperoning various events. A teacher needs to be patient and be able to go with the flow. You may have the greatest most time consuming lesson planned and it goes straight out the window when Johnny pulls the fire alarm or an assembly is called. And although you usually work independently in the classroom, you also need to be able and willing to work as a group.
S.M. answers from Los Angeles on March 25, 2010
I believe it is something that you should WANT to do. It requires a lot of your own time and creativity. I think the worst part about this profession is the teachers that don't want to be there. they produce uneducated and unexcited students!If you are in LA county good luck finding a jog. They are letting veterans go that are fantastic teachers :( The surrounding counties are just a difficult to get in because the teacher that have lost their jobs are resourcing to surrounding areas.
We all are having a hard time finding jobs even with the extended experience.
K.B. answers from Houston on March 24, 2010
If you're looking for a job with true school day hours and not a lot of "take home work" you might want to look into becoming a substitute teacher. The pay is not great, but you can stick to the true school hours and can have more flexibility with which days you work. You can check the requirements of your area but it may be that you can sub without any additional education at all. It would give you some experience in the schools with different ages and then if you love it you can pursue your teaching certificate and have a better idea of what ages you might be most interested in teaching.
Good luck,
K.
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