D.F. asks from Walnutport, PA on November 16, 2008
Allowance
I am seeking advice on how much to pay my older girls for the chores that they do each week. My 13 year old daughter is responsible for vacuuming once a week (all the bedrooms except mine) and for cleaning the cat's litter every other day. She is involved in sports and of course, homework is a priority. My 9 year old has to vacuum the bathroom floors (with a lightweight electric broom) and swiffer them once a week. She feeds the cat every other day. She is also involved in activities and has homework to get done. Both girls have to clear and set the table each night and clean their bathroom every other week. I work full time and have an almost 1 year old so everyone has to pitch in. I have never given the girls an allowance for their chores, but I would like to so they can pay for the little extras that they want. My oldest daughter is a spender (my $ and hers) so I would like her to start practicing a little fiscal responsibility. Her younger sister is a saver and more likely to give her $ away to help others. I would like your suggestions and input as to how many chores are enough, too much? How much to give each girl and what to do if they don't do their jobs well?
Thank you in advance!!
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The responses that I received to my question were awesome- the ideas and links to more info are so appreciated. I am going to discuss all of these responses with my husband this weekend and come up wiht a plan!
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A.B. answers from Reading on November 19, 2008
Give each child a set of chore lists and responsiblities with an attached dollar amount to each item. It'll be easy to 'add up' any earned income at the end of the week and it'll be hard for them to argue. Grades below a C -$1, skipped dishes on Tuesday -$.50. It's very clear cut and leaves no room for arguing or attitude.
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A.B. answers from Reading on November 19, 2008
Give each child a set of chore lists and responsiblities with an attached dollar amount to each item. It'll be easy to 'add up' any earned income at the end of the week and it'll be hard for them to argue. Grades below a C -$1, skipped dishes on Tuesday -$.50. It's very clear cut and leaves no room for arguing or attitude.
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A.J. answers from Williamsport on November 17, 2008
Figure out the amount of $s they should realistically get for the incidentals they buy each week.
Then figure out how many chores you want them doing. Enough to be real responsibility, and not too much to create homework conflict etc.
In our extended family, kids get no allowance if all their chores aren't finished, and finished well. And there is no "opting out" of chores. Just like in life, you have to do your work to get paid.
Also, every one sits together each week and deducts "tax" and "savings"(to be given back at a later time-18th birthday, whatever) from their allowance to teach that you don't get to spend everything you make. Some kids have been asking for more chores, because they don't have enough money after taxes!!!! Just like life! :)
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K.D. answers from Philadelphia on November 17, 2008
My kids are young and I don't do allowance yet with them, but I thought I'd let you know how my parents handled allowance when I was growing up. Until high school my sister and I got an amount dependent on our age, and we were required to put a certain amount in the bank - required savings. The rest we could do what we wanted with, but were encouraged to save it toward special purchases that we wanted to make. Then once we hit high school, my parents figured out how much they spent on us total (clothes, extra $ for going out with friends, gas for the car once I started driving, etc.) and divided it into weekly amounts. So at that time I was getting $25 per week but I needed to manage that well because they didn't normally give me any money outside of that. I needed to buy my clothes and everything with that $. I'm not sure I'll do the same with my kids, but I do think it's an interesting method to consider. It certainly did teach us to manage our money.
Good luck!
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L.H. answers from Philadelphia on November 17, 2008
Hi D.,
I have 3 beautiful children ages 21, 20, and 16, so I've been down the "allowance" vs "chores" road, so here is my humble opinion.
An allowance is the money you ALLOW your children to have. An allowance is not earned money, as for a chore or job, and should not be given as a result of work performed, nor withheld or docked for work not performed. It is a tool you give them to help them learn to budget and save their money, and to make good decisions about money. It helps them understand that money is a limited resource, and we all have to make choices to live within those limits.
Deciding whether or not to give your child an allowance is up to you, and how much is also up to you and your family's available income and situation. My opinion would be somewhere around $10 a week for a 13yo, and somewhere around $7 or $8 for a 9 year old.
If you also require chores to be done, then they should be done simply because you are all members of a family, and family members are required to help each other out in order to meet the family goals. I explain to my children that I don't get paid for running the dishwasher, doing the laundry or cleaning the bathroom, and neither is any pay taken from me if I don't. The consequences of not doing my laundry is simply that I wear dirty clothes, which isn't a choice I want to make, so I do the laundry.
If my children ever wanted more money than they could save with their allowance (such as to buy Christmas presents or etc.), then that money needed to be earned. They could not earn them with their regular chores, but as you know, there is always work that needs to be done above and beyond the regular chores. I would allow them to clean out my car, a closet, or do something extra such as that. I would work out the compensation in advance. I usually paid by the job instead of by the hour, because working by the hour would give them the incentive to work slower, and by the job gives the incentive to finish one job in order to to another.
Lastly, I opened a savings account in their name at the bank. I required that a portion of their allowance go into the savings account each time they got paid. I required 10% go to savings, but my children usually chose to put more like 50% or more in savings. My name was also on the account, so they could not withdraw the money unless they had my permission. In this way, even my spender was able to see the value of saving her money, after she saw her savings account grow to over $300, she was thrilled and began to save even more of her money.
This system worked for us. I hope it helps,
L.
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A.L. answers from York on November 17, 2008
Hi D.,
You got some really great advice, so I won't go into much detail. I totally agree with Lori and some of the others that chores are required because we all contribute to the running of the household. There are jobs/work that HAS to be done in life that we never get paid for. To teach our kids that they should be compensated for everything they do that they consider work is bad news. I also was able to earn extra money by doing extra chores or work...ie rewarded for going above and beyond what is required. As far as the amount, you need to decide what you can afford. I was thinking about the lines of $5 to $10, but you know if you can afford that or not. I commend you for teaching your children to contribute and to be responsible with they money they do get. I am proud of you MOM!! Good luck.
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D.P. answers from Pittsburgh on November 17, 2008
I would set up a weekly list (like you have done) and if ALL the chores are done each week, they get their allowance, if a chore was missed or skipped, then nothing. They will learn that there are jobs that just need to be done, whether they want to do it or not. Plus you won't be figuring out "patrial rates"! :-)
Also, consider teaching the following as far as the use of their allowance money:
There are three things you can do with money: Spend it, Save it or GIVE it.
Kids are usually OK with the spending & saving, but the "giving" is a little tougher! Yet so important for them to understand!
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L.H. answers from Philadelphia on November 17, 2008
Well it is hard to say. I would say $5.oo wk sounds good. It is also depeneds on how much you feel that you have to give each of them. i have heard some people hire then that and others lower then that. My kids still need to learn that they need to do thiers with out being asked or told.
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L.R. answers from Sharon on November 17, 2008
My children are 8 and 4, they have chores and they get an allowance for them. I agree with the first response as far as the $10 a week goes, but, you shouldn't give one more then the other. They do the same amount of work, considering the age difference. It does teach them to be responsible. If they don't do them correctly, take away $2 a day or however much you see fit. My 8 yr old feeds the dogs every day, and she cleans one room every day, my 4 yr old feeds the cats every day, and helps his sister with whatever room she is doing. So as far as too much goes, I think you are fine. Good luck! Don't give in!!! My daughter is not allowed to do ANYTHING until her homework and chores are done, It's hard at times, especially when her friend calls and wants her to come play! But now her and her friend know, she has to do her homework then her chores as soon as she gets in the door from school, it works well, she does it, and her friend usually waits about an hour before she calls now. Good luck again!
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