D.S. asks from Kings Mountain, NC on June 17, 2009
Advice on "Going Out" (Dating) in Elementary School
My 10 yo son has informed me that several girls want to "go out" with him. Which is just a term they use for being boyfriend and girlfriend. They don't actually go out on dates or anything like that. He is very handsome and the girls are noticing. He tells them my mom won't let me and so far he has gotten by with that, but now...
He told me that he really likes a few of the girls and his peers think he is weird because he won't "go out" with them. I asked him what it meant. He said he didn't know because he is not allowed to do it. I told him to ask them, but of course that would be too embrassing. He says his friends just hang out on the playground with their girlfriend and write them notes. He says he is not ready for kissing.
He wants to try this, but my concern is that this will 1) distract him in school where he already is having major issues. 2) start his interest in girls too soon. 3) things will start with hanging out on the playground, then holding hands, then kissing and on we go. He is a very emotional kid and needs peer acceptance on everything, which is why I am so glad that he was willing to go against the grain with this for awhile, but now I am at a loss as to what to say. I told him we could approach the subject next school year, since he won't see these girls over the summer. He is now telling everyone "Mom and I are going to talk about me dating next year." Seriously!?!
His "dad" has encourage checking out girls and this type interaction, since they were young. Asking if they thought their teachers were "hot" etc. (believe me a this is a whole other Oprah and clearly one reason why he is an ex-husband!) I am trying to combat this! My husband is an amazing role model of how to treat a woman and I continually use our relationship as a great example of respect and love.
The social worker at the school lectures that they are too young for girlfriend and boyfriend stuff, so I have just stuck by that notion. Now what?
My thought is they really are too young. I started young and just continued to get braver and believe me I have a ton of regrets on this subject! So, I am not sure how to approach it now.
My older son 11, is really not interested all that much yet, but he is definitely listening closely to the conversations. lol
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T.W. answers from Denver on June 18, 2009
If you don't want him to go that route yet then just explain to him why. If it is because you rushed into things to early then tell him that (leave out details of course). Once you give him your true honest reasoning then tell him to just down play it at school. If he doesn't give it energy then the other kids will be bored with the subject.
Since he is starting to show interest in other girls you may find that he may just kinda "go out" with them anyways. Sometimes curiosity gets the best of them. The biggest thing is to keep the line of communication open. Be honest with him good or bad! You want him to keep coming to you with these things and you want the opportunity to guide him. That way when he does start "going out" with girls you are involved and hopefully teach him to make the right decisions. By the way good for him telling his friends that his mom won't let him. At 10 that is the perfect escape goat.
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J.O. answers from Boise on June 18, 2009
I agree that 10 is to young. I have always maintained a 16 age for any form of dating or boy/girl parties. And this was always known to my kids. They didn't always like it, but they understood my reasoning. For my house dating is a privilage, no different then driving a car, playing video games etc,..At this age they have one job.. school, start throwing in boy/girl "relationships" and thier focus shifts, and they tend to loose focus of what is really important... family and school. We, as parents, have such a short time to set them up for thier future, why complicate it so early?
Talk with him and be completely honest, but let him know that you will stand firm in whatever age you pick, and that you are doing it for him because you love him.
Funny story, my know 15 year old came to me last year and said she was glad that I had the 16 age, she saw how "stupid and immature" her friends were acting over boys. She liked being able to say "Sorry my mom won't let me", especially to boys she really doesn't like. She is interested in a boy, but knows that if it's going to happen waitning a little longer isn't going to hurt.
J.A. answers from Salt Lake City on June 18, 2009
Couldn't you just have a family rule that states "Dating is acceptable at age 16"? Then your kids can refer to the family rule when asked about it at school. There is a limit and expectation that your boys will meet and the girls at school know that they have to wait.
You could also have a family night to talk about why we don't date early...virtue, chastity, future life goals. Let me know if you need any more ideas about your family night talk. Good luck, mama!
K.H. answers from Denver on June 18, 2009
DeeDee,
Hold your ground! My daughter is 11, and kids in her class have been dating for a year or so (including getting dropped off at movies by parents). It is crazy, and you are right, it starts the whole process way too soon. These are the same kids who watch Desperate Housewives, etc. and you can see that they are getting way too many ideas because of some of the conversations, teasing, notes, etc that my daughter reports. We have said absolutely not, and have talked about the kissing and touching that goes on with dating and how she is too young for that. Let your son know he is not alone. Good luck.
D.C. answers from Denver on June 18, 2009
I think it depends on the maturity of each child, but from what you have said, it sounds like he's feeling obligated to have a girlfriend/date. 10 is very young, but it sounds fairly harmless, too. If it were me, I'd probably do as you are and encourage him to wait.
R.M. answers from Salt Lake City on June 18, 2009
I'm rather old fashioned in this area. After raising my own, I believe children should wait until 16 to date. I believe that in encouraging or allowing it to early, they "progress" faster and are going steady at a time when they should be enjoying a variety of friends and learning who they are and what kind of mate they want to spend their lives with. There is alot of pressure in the schools for our children to become sexual too early and I believe we need to encourage our children to wait for someone truely special. They can still "hang Out" with someone on the playground that they like, but elementary is way too early to be moving in that direction.
Just my thoughts after raising my own children.
M.C. answers from Colorado Springs on June 18, 2009
D. S,
I dont have a great answer for you, but I just wanted to tell you how impressive it is that you and your son have been communicating openly about this. If you guys decide he can go out with a girl, I hope he keeps talking with you about it and you can probably notice from that if the displays of affection are changing.
I do think kids of this age are too young, but you have to work with what's at hand. He's being honest about it, not "going out" behind your back or anything. Maybe, with some ground rules in place, next year he should hang out with a special girl.
That's another thing. Explain to him that he has to choose ONE of the many interested girls and how this could be "complicated" with the rest. Hahaha, I dont know, its all probably simpler than what us parents think.
Good Luck!
C.C. answers from Salt Lake City on June 18, 2009
I think it is awesome your son is talking to you. I think a great way to approach it is to ask him what he thinks the pros and cons are and to make out a list to make an educated decision. I think you could also make a list and then the two of you compare notes and have a discussion, ask him to keep talking to you that you respect him and his decision. often what happens in this type of format is that kids decide for themselves that they don't want to just be with one person when they can hang out with everyone instead--it would be an interesting conversation and let you know where his head really is and he can know what is going on in your heart as well.
I know that my parents had a no dating rule until 16 but my parents encouraged us to hang out in large groups without paring off before that. I had boy/girl parties all the time growing up. I personally think it helped me to see I didn't want to just be with one person at that age. I had a boy I really liked ask me to "go" with him in 8th grade and I remember the conversation we had about how I liked him but I didn't "go" with people. He said your parents don't have to know. I said I know--but I have chosen not to. I don't feel like I am ready for that kind of commitment but I really want us to be friends and hang out. He seemed sad but okay at the same time. we stayed friends. He got a girlfriend a few months later and it was sad when they broke up because it put a lot of pressure the whole group of friends because it wasn't amicable. lol. oh the memories. My dad always told me to make a list of pros and cons on decisions I was making and let me have the chance to be open and honest with him. My mom didn't it was always her way. just her way. so I hid stuff from my mom. but I talked to my dad.
I think you are doing an awesome job.
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