35 answers

? About My 4Yr Old and His Preschool, Sorry for the Length!

Hi All,

First I would like to say Thank You, to all of you wonderful people on here, I sure do appreciate the time you guys to take to help out and give advice!

OK, so my son who is 4yrs old, will be 5 on Oct.25th has started Jr. Kindergarten this year in his preschool. He was in the 3's class last year and my older son was in this same preschool for 3's and 4's classes before moving onto Kindergarten. Here is my issue...hubby dropped off our son at school 2 weeks ago and he called me right after he left and said that "W" was sitting at a table all by himself with his back to the rest of the class and that it looked like he was sitting at the "bad kid" table? I immediately went down there, just to peak in and see what the issue was. I talked to the teachers' Aide and she said that my son is having problems getting his "entry task" done...entry task is a worksheet they do as soon as they get to school, it usually involves tracing some letters and coloring the coordinating letter or animal, F for fish, or color in 2 fishes if the # they are working on is the #2...you get the idea. The Aide said that "W" is NOT disruptive, he is just slow and gets distracted by what the others are doing and so they thought they would separate him and see if this makes any difference. Later that day when I went to pick him up the teacher pulled me aside to talk with me and proceeded to tell me that she had spoken to the school director as well as his last years teacher and they all agree that as long as he is having fun and is excited to come to school that he is OK to stay in this class. I was more than caught off guard....they had not said 2 words to me about any of this and I am concerned that they have been discussing my son with the school director and the old teacher with out telling me any of this? I didn't say anything really, just listened...the teacher also said something about "you not giving up on him just yet"...I have never said anything about giving up on my son or whether or not I thought he could handle the class? I am hoping this was just mis-communication on both our parts! Anyway, I talked with "W" and told him he had to be quick with his work so he could join the rest of the class. Every day since then, I have come in and asked "how did today go"? and have been told every time, that all went great and that he has even been the 1st one done a couple times. My concerns are with the fact that he is still kept separate, even after the entry task is over. In the initial talk with the teacher she said that when he finishes the entry task that he will be moved back to the tables with the rest of the kids...however this has yet to happen?

I know that my son needs extra help with his letters and we have been practicing everyday after school...I originally signed him up for the Jr. K class because I knew he needed extra practice with letters and cutting and the normal 4's class just does a lot of painting which "W" finds boring. "W" is a math kid...he loves doing anything with numbers and can add and subtract double digits in his head but when it comes to writing letters he has serious trouble...he can trace them just fine but when he tries to free-hand them everything ends up looking like a square? We are practicing but I can see he is having trouble...I am not even sure what my question to you all is? I am just concerned and worried. I do not want my son's first real classroom setting to be associated with him being isolated? But I do not want to be the nagging mom either...always asking why my kid is being left out? What do you all think? How much do I /should I speak up? I have told myself I would give it a couple weeks to get settled but I am almost at an end of the 2 weeks and am wondering what my next move should be?

Also, one more thing..."W" is a pretty shy kid and like me, he does NOT like to be touched and his teacher makes all the kids give her hugs before they can leave for the day...I cringe just watching my poor boy, she has to ask him at least twice to give her a hug and when he finally does he literally moves his whole body sideways and only give her half his body, turns his head away from her and pats her one time with his hand and then he is OUT of there! He is visibly uncomfortable with the hugging, shouldn't the teacher recognize this and not make him hug her? Do most preschool teachers hug? I do not seem to recall this with my other son but other son is also not uncomfortable like "W" is, so maybe I just didn't notice?

What can I do next?

More Answers

Kids shouldn't be forced to hug someone. At my daughter's preschool the teacher's ask each child as they are leaving if they want a hug or a high five. Some kids choose hugs, some high fives. Maybe you can tell them that your son is uncomfortable with hugging and could they offer to give a high five instead.

6 moms found this helpful

30Mom,

I have to address the hugging thing first. No one, let me repeat that, no one has a right to force a child to physically touch them. I realize that his teacher might mean well but it is wrong. Nor should anyone force themselves upon a child. It sets a bad precedent. Change the players a bit. What if your husband forced a hug from the teacher? It would be unacceptable. I don't know why people think it's okay do to it to children.

Jr Kindergarten sounds like pre-K4 in the public schools. Unless your child has preference for sitting alone then I see no reason for isolating him. If he needs more guidance to finish an activity then the teachers should give it to him. I would have a sit down discussion with the teachers.

I agree with the other mom who said, "Be your son's advocate."

Good luck.
~K.

5 moms found this helpful

He should NEVER be isolated-for any reason at all-in a pre-k program! If I were you I would go in tomorrow and talk to the director about this. I am actually stunned a preschool teacher would do this, really. And every day!In our school the ONLY reason this would happen would be for behavior.

You also need to talk to her about the hugging. If your son has a problem with it he should NOT be made to hug her. Period. I find it strange that a teachers asks for hugs every day anyhow.

I also don't like that in your Pre-K program the teachers are expecting any kind of mastery of anything. At this age it is unrealistic to expect them to write perfect letters or shapes. Many just don't have the coordination for it. And it is stressing him out that they are expecting this of him and for him to finish within a certain time. Your son is bright-my son was doing the same thing at your's age -adding multiple digit numbers in his head. He is 9 now and in Gifted classes and he STILL is about the sloppiest writer out there.

You are the advocate for your child. At your son's age he is not able to stand up for himself so you have to do it for him. You are NOT nagging and please don't think of it that way. These are VALID concerns that need to be addressed.

4 moms found this helpful

Physical contact of any kind should NEVER be required for a student to give to a teacher, or anyone else in the school. I find it quite odd, and I taught in a preschool setting for a few years.

Does being separated bother your son? If not, then I would not worry too much about it, if it is helping him focus. It he has said that he wants tomtit with the other kids after he finishes his task, then I'd ask the teacher to be a proactive in getting him back with the others.

4 moms found this helpful

Well I can tell you this: if my daughter doesn't want to hug someone, then she doesn't have to. Period. I don't care who it is - grandma, teacher, even me! That's a personal and intimate act and no one should be forced into it (sorry for the dramatics). My daughter's preschool teacher does not make anyone hug.

As for the rest, maybe you should make an appointment with the teacher to sit and chat about your son's progress in the class. Go into it open-minded and with a few questions about what is expected and how he's performing.

4 moms found this helpful

I would speak up about the isolation. After you ask how he is doing again and they say really good...I would then ask if it is time he moved back with the rest of the class.

I would also have a talk with the preschool teacher about the hugging situation. If your son is uncomfortable with it, I don't think he should be required to do it. (My daughter was never required to do this in preschool)

4 moms found this helpful

Just sounds like your son is very young and not at the speed of the other kids.
So what? He is the youngest.. He is a full year younger than a lot of the other kids.

You sound more upset about him having to work alone more than he does, so maybe you need to not look at it as punishment but as a time for him to concentrate on his own. They said they are just trying it.

If you do not think this is the class he needs to be in take him out or ask what other class he should be in. He is an individual and may just not be mature enough for some of these activities and you know what that is ok.. He is only 4 about to be 5 and it is not surprising.. This does not mean he will be slow, he will not do well later in school. It means at his moment, this particular activity takes him longer or is not something he can do independently very well. Ask if it can be sent home so you can work on it with him.

Instead of a hug, maybe you could ask if he could give her a handshake. Our daughter is not a big hugger for people outside of the family. It takes her time to give someone a hug, but she is good at handshakes or a pat on the shoulder..

It is going to be ok.. Preschool is a safe place. Your son sounds very bright. His likes and interest will change a lot in the future. There will be things he will love and things he will not care for.. not a big deal at this age..

3 moms found this helpful

How about a new school?

3 moms found this helpful

Required Fields

Our records show that we already have a Mamapedia or Mamasource account created for you under the email address you entered.

Please enter your Mamapedia or Mamasource password to continue signing in.

Required Fields

, you’re almost done...

Since this is the first time you are logging in to Mamapedia with Facebook Connect, please provide the following information so you can participate in the Mamapedia community.

As a member, you’ll receive optional email newsletters and community updates sent to you from Mamapedia, and your email address will never be shared with third parties.

By clicking "Continue to Mamapedia", I agree to the Mamapedia Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy.