A.P. asks from Tucson, AZ on March 26, 2010
7 Year Old Tardy for 1St Grade 13 Times This Semester! HELP!!
I drop my daughter off at school after the gate is opened, but about 10 minutes or so before the first bell rings. She has been late 13 times to class. She says that she goes to the cafeteria for breakfast (even though she eats at home). We (parents, school and teacher) have all talked to her about gathering her things at first bell and then getting to class. I don't know what to do with her. We just had Parent/Teacher Conference last night and her report card said 12 times this semester. Her teacher e-mailed me this morning and said she was tardy again. I don't want to have to change my morning routine because it is a waste and we would all have to get up earlier and leave earlier. Here's why:
7 year old goes to school across the street from our house. She has to be at school no earlier than 8:37 and no later than 8:57 (first bell). Our 4 year old goes to school about 2 miles from our house. She has to be at school no later than 9am. So, right now, I drop off the 7 year old, then the 4 year old. If I were to change the routine, I would have to drive passed her school to drop her sister off and then backtrack to take her back to school. We leave about 8:40 in the morning to allow time to get both girls to school on time (we barely make it to PreSchool by 9am because of traffic restrictions and school zones). So, I'm thinking I would have to leave the house by 8:20 or earlier to get my 4 year old to school and then the 7 year old to school on time (I'm going to have to walk her to class).
Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd really hate to change the morning routine, but if I have to I will.
Thanks!
So What Happened?™
First - THANK YOU! to all the people that responded! I have a lot of great ideas that I'm going to implement. She went 9 days without being tardy and then she walked to school with a friend and was tardy! So, I kind of think that she is trying to spend time with friends in the morning that maybe she doesn't get to see or play with later in the day at school. She is a VERY social child and wants to play with/talk to or generally sociallize with everyone. She has many, many "best friends."
I do want to clarify that she does have a punishment at school - they give her recess detention. She just doesn't care that much that she misses the recess. She likes recess and likes to sociallize, but it's still not enough of a consequence. It's finding that thing that she cares about so much that she will do anything not to lose. Thanks to your responses, I have plenty of things to try.
Thanks again!!
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K.G. answers from Detroit on March 26, 2010
I wouldn't let her eat at school in the morning. If she ate at home there is no need for her to eat again! She can then go straight to her class room.
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M.C. answers from Washington DC on March 26, 2010
How tardy is tardy? My son's school, if they are at the door but in the hallway, they are tardy. Their body has to be fully in the room. My nephew's teacher says that they have to be at their desks or they are tardy. So I would clarify that part with the school.
I don't think that you should have to drop the 4yr old off first but it seems that the 7yr old may just need a little bit more time. Try leaving at 8:30 so that you are waiting in the dropoff at the school for the 7yr old when the gates open at 8:37. This will give her 10 extra minutes to get her breakfast and make it to class. Since she also eats breakfast at home, if you happen to be running late, then she'll need to not try and get breakfast at the school.
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K.F. answers from Salinas on March 26, 2010
Hi- This is an easy one. Natural consequences, she loses the privledge of going to the cafeteria until she shows she can handle it. It's only 10 minutes before the classroom is open? Have her bring a book and go directly to class, as soon as the teacher opens the door she should be at her desk. It's only 10 minutes at most and the waiting will remind her that she's missing the fun in the caf. After a couple weeks of no tradies you could let her try the school breakfast again. If she really loves it she'll figure out how to get to class on time.
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D.F. answers from Boston on March 26, 2010
I would make it clear to the school and the cafeteria monitor that she is to go straight to class. Make sure she eats at home, no need to stop in the cafeteria at all. Time to take away what she cherishes most mom if this happens again. If the caf is where they all go before let into class then I would make her wait in the office until its time to go to class. She will learn the hard way. Good luck!
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P.W. answers from Dallas on March 26, 2010
Don't tell your daughter. She doesn't have to know you are the bad guy, but make a plan with your daughters teacher. Then stop worrying about it. Don't remind her at home. Just drop her at school It doesn't sound like the school is doing much more than marking her tardy. Consequences should fall at school, not at home. You've tried to help her get there on time now it's time for her to take control.
Ideas for a plan:
1)Teacher requires child to come to school 1/2 hour early and vacuum the classroom. No leaving the room to go to the cafeteria. Do it 2 days, but if she gets another tardy then next time for 5 days, etc... (Don't pick this idea if you think your daughter will like it)
2)Teacher requires child to stay after school and do a chore or school work. (pick something that is not appealing to your daughter. you want this to be fair but unpleasant)
3)Pick something that does not humiliate your daughter. Something reasonable. The teacher can tell your daughter that she doesn't want to worry about her being late and so she wants her there 1/2 early every day for two weeks. You may have to walk her in to be sure she gets to the classroom. Whatever you do pick something she won't want to have to repeat to ensure she gets her little bottom to class on time!
This is basically "Love and Logic." Get the books. I think I am their biggest advocate on this website!
Good Luck!
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S.J. answers from Phoenix on March 27, 2010
First and foremost, you need to have a conversation with her and find out why she is doing this. She is 7, she knows what she is doing, and she is not following the rules for some certain reason. Does she feel that her sister gets to spend more time with you in the mornings, making her feel left out? Is she having problems with her teacher? Is there a bully that she has to walk past to get to her classroom in the morning that she is afraid of, making hiding out in the cafeteria a more palatable option?
Second, you are going to have to show her by your actions that her being irresponsible with her time, for whatever reason, has now caused a consequence; you walking her into school. In front of her friends, in front of her classmates, in front of the teachers. This will show her that a) she is just as important to you as her sister, and b) that you as the parent are not going to allow her to misbehave any longer, and c) that her education is extremely important and not something to play at. If you don't handle this quickly and firmly, then what will she do next?
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A.C. answers from Detroit on March 26, 2010
If it won't hurt for your 4 year old to be late to preschool for a week, do this...
Walk your daughter to her classroom for a week while holding her hand and helping her put her backpack away and get to her seat. She'll be so mortified she'll never be late again.
I used to teach high school and had a student who acted up in all her classes. Her mother joined her for a day of school, sitting in a chair next to her. The student never acted up again!
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P.G. answers from Modesto on March 26, 2010
This is what I would do:
If she has any games/video/movie nights/get together/sleepovers= fun stuff
i would start there- our jobs as parents is to teach our kids how "real" life will be in the real world.. you cannot be late to work more than 3x in a month or you get disciplined, right?
Yes, she is 7 I know you are probably rolling your eyes right now- but trust me, this works. Obviously, she has not learned after the first 3x of being tardy, she has not learned with you, the teacher or any other adult who has tried to tell her what she is doing is wrong.
It's time to take action!! She is eating at home- she should not be eating at school, or if she does want to eat at school, she should get up earlier and get herself across the street. You should not be taking her to school if she is that close- I mean, yes, you can walk her to the crosswalk in pj's and make sure she gets on campus- ON TIME- but she needs to learn to take responsibility!!
I know at first you are kind of at a loss about why this is happening- but YOU are the reason this has happened so many times.. 13x .. come on!! At the first sign of a problem you should have taken action- this is YOUR child- this is where it starts with showing responsibility.
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I.M. answers from New York on March 26, 2010
A.,
At 7 years old they know better. I would give her time out for every time she is late. Take away what she likes the most. Specially if she eats at home there is no need for her to go to the cafeteria, specially if she is taking so long and being late for her class. It's not like you are just sitting there doing nothing, you have to take your other daughter to her school and changing your schedule for her would mean, everyone else suffers the consequences but her. So, I would discipline her and let her know that her behavior will bring consequences that she will not like. I bet she'll won't be late again. :)
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C.S. answers from Charlotte on March 26, 2010
Tell her to get her behind to class or she will be sitting in the same grade next year when all of her friends get to move up
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