S.T. asks from Carmichael, CA on April 07, 2009
7 Mo Sweatheart, but She Wont Stop Screaming! OMG!
Let me start this by saying I LOVE MY KIDS, but I cannot get my 7 mo daughter to stop screaming. She will go on with these tantrums for 2 HOURS! (If you could only hear the noise in my house as my 3 year old tries to compete for attention). I had a bad C-section with her so we've been co-sleeping, which worked out great for the first couple months. I've been trying to get her into her crib for months, but she just screams. She'll fall asleep and I sneak her in after an hour she's screaming again. I've even slept on the floor, but she just keeps screaming. I do the whole consoling thing every 10, 20, I've even gone as long as 30 minutes praying she goes to sleep. . . NOPE!
So here's the next step, she screams in the car, she screams when I'm on the phone, she screams and screams and screams until I'm right there in front of her either holding her or playing with her. I'm so broken down and exhausted that I find myself giving into the behavior. My son isn't like this!
I've even taken her to the dr, we've check acid reflux and ear infections, nothing. . . she's totally healthy. Is this normal for a girl? How am I going to get this to stop?
I'm so frustrated I'm finding that I don't want to be around her, but I cannot even get a break long enough to get a 5 minute shower without her going off! When the hubby is home on the weekends I might get 6 minutes, but he can't handle the screaming either and just passes her off. And, of course, since she's still connected to me the only way any of us get sleep is if she continues to be in our bed. Certainly not working any wonders for my marriage.
Help!?!?!?!? Please!?!? Somebody!?!?
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Thank you all for such great comments. It certainly is very helpful to know that I'm not alone in feeling this way and others have struggled with similar behavior. I love my family (hubby included) but when there is no support over time it becomes prison like and claustrophobic. We don't have any family within 400 miles and recently moved to a new location so our baby sitter is not around as much. I was feeling pretty cut off from the world.
So this is what I've done so far. . . I set up my pac-n-play and have been wheeling her around the house from room to room. This actually seems to help somewhat as she's now continually with me. I had done the pouch packs and back packs, but the girl is nearly 20lbs and I can only take so much until I wear done. So far this has helped the constant screams. And it's helped get her to start crawling.
She's still in our bed, but I'm happy to have her there as I've found I certainly sleep better (rather than not at all) having the sweet smell of the top of her soft little head with me there through the night. The other side of that is that in frustration I broke her crib a few days ago. No, I wasn't having a mommy fit at the time. It's a crib I got off craigslist that was in great condition, but the sliding side kept getting stuck. Well, no more I pulled too hard thinking it needed to be jarred loose and broke the wood, oops! - so I've calmed down and resolved to keep her in my bed for a few more weeks until I can find a crib I really like that is solid (and maybe she'll be a little more ready). Interesting how much I've calmed down once I know there's nothing that can change this.
As for naps we are still struggling, but now that I'm not battling nights, naps seems less "loud".
Another thing is that I've started interviewing preK's for my son. He thrives so much with others and I've regressed. He needs to continue to grow and I'm feeling that it's time. Anyone know a good PreK in the Carmichael area?
Thank you all again for your advise. I do truly appreciate it.
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J.B. answers from Sacramento on April 08, 2009
M.S. answers from Sacramento on April 08, 2009
Try www.sleeplady.com I have heard wonderful things and she will do 1:1 consultation. It could be a very subtle change you need, but I think she could help. Good luck!
M. S.
P.W. answers from San Francisco on April 08, 2009
Wow, you poor thing. I don't have any real advice, just a question: Since a mom can usually tell what kind of cry or scream it is -- what kind of scream does it sound like? Pain? Frustration? Just wanting attention? As long as it does not sound like the pain kind, then at least you don't have to worry about that. The other moms can give you more ideas.
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H.J. answers from San Francisco on April 08, 2009
I would go to Dr. Sears' website & start checking into his advice on high-need babies. I think he even has a book on just that. Honestly, I would go back to co-sleeping till she's a little calmer when awake--it sounds like the nighttime screaming sessions may be part of the cause of the daytime clinginess. She sounds like she needs the closeness to you that co-sleeping gives--and you'll both benefit from the extra sleep.
If you don't have a good sling or other baby carrier, find one you like & see if it helps. No, it's not always the most convenient way to go about things, but, me, I value the lack of screaming highly enough to inconvenience myself other ways. It's not necessarily a girl or boy thing--it's just that every baby is a different person.
I have a little girl who will be 2 in a few weeks and a 6-month-old--and we co-sleep with at least the little one every night, and often both, so I really do know how it goes. You'll see me pushing a cart through Costco, with the big one in the cart, & the little one nursing in the sling.
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J.S. answers from San Francisco on April 08, 2009
She screams- she gets Mommy. Very simple. She has developed an exceptionally effective tool for getting your attention, and it works well for her.
If you sleep train her properly, a lot of this will get better. The problem is- she knows you will always give in. I've been there. My first screamed for months and also slept in our bed. Then I trained her, and it was like having a different child entirely. Because she learned how to self-soothe, and because she finally got good quality sleep. I realized that I had done her a disservice by not giving her the opportunity to learn to soothe herself to sleep. Once she learned after 3 nights of not going in to console her, she became the happiest ever baby. I had to learn that not going in when she was screaming was what she needed most, even though I didn't like it.
Also, I got to the point where it was important for me to just embrace screaming. Learn to even love it. The more you do, a funny thing happens- they stop doing it so much. Funny how being in a state of acceptance changes everything for the better. They sense it totally- they sense that you are calm and not frazzled by it, and it calms them down too eventually.
Good luck!
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K.W. answers from San Francisco on April 08, 2009
I'm sorry you are going through this. My daughter, now 14 months, sounds similar. For the first 8 months she cried a lot. Around month 7 I remember thinking, she is crying ALL THE TIME! And when I say crying, I mean screaming. I totally hear your frustration. It was very, very hard. I read Dr. Sears "Fussy Baby" book, and though there were some really unrealistic aspects, overall it helped me to accept my daughter and our reality.
Until she was over a year my baby would only sleep on me (or my partner). She still naps in a carrier. She now sleeps in our bed but not on top of us. She is quite happy during the day now--being able to crawl and then walk worked wonders. Things improved greatly around 8 months--except that we also hired a babysitter, and for 2-3 months she screamed for 2-3 hours a day, 3-4 days a week. In other words, the ENTIRE time the babysitter was there. And I was trying to work in the house. It was truly awful. But now she likes the babysitter and goes to her happily most days. She still screams sometimes, but not that often.
I really believe that the best solution is to try to meet her needs. She is telling you what she needs. She is not manipulating you---she's only 7 months old! But she does have needs that are overwhelming and totally exhausting. She is a very high need baby. Meet the needs, and you and she will both do better.
When I stopped trying to accomplish things, and just held her all the time, she screamed a lot less (but still quite a bit). When I accepted that she was a baby that was going to need all my attention all the time, and still have a hard time, things actually got easier.
Of course I loved my daughter from the moment she was placed in my arms (she was adopted at 3 days old). But I didn't fall head over heels in love with her until she was about 8 months old, I had accepted who she was AND she started to tolerate being physically apart from me (like on the floor a few feet away). She also started communicating in other ways then--waving, then clapping, etc. And this seemed to help us both.
And find a way to give yourself a real break! Leave her with your husband, hire a sitter, find a friend who can tolerate her screaming--but make time for yourself so when you are with her you can REALLY be with her the way she needs you.
Good luck.
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A.H. answers from San Francisco on April 08, 2009
dear S.,
I'm so sorry to hear about your situation! It sounds immensely frustrating! You've had tons of advice, but here is something I don't think was mentioned previously. You said you had a bad C-section with her-- maybe she has some latent birth trauma, perhaps this is physical or emotional. After my daughter was born, we took her to a cranio-sacral therapist for a few months to straighten out the kinks from her birth. It REALLY helped calm her down. Before this, we'd been having big screaming matches at feedings and in the night. Look for a craniosacral therapist that does work with infants. It's very gentle and pleasurable and relaxing for everyone.
If that doesn't sound appealing, you might take her to a chiropractor for the same reason. When i visit the chiro my daughter comes along and gets a quick checkup. There is no "cracking" with children because their joints are so young and fluid, but a good chiropractor can find spots that are out of whack. After a visit to the chiro my daughter often takes an extra long nap.
Good luck!!! And I hope this resolves soon so you can enjoy being a Mommy again. Don't feel guilty about those feelings-- they are so normal, especially when you're not getting any of your needs met.
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G.R. answers from Sacramento on April 08, 2009
I have so been there.
My son was very similar. He needed to be close to me and wanted to be held all the time. I was losing it and never getting to shower, I never had time to myself.
I tried cry it out and was told that the average baby gets the idea after 4 days, a week at most. It took us 4 mos. He is incredibly persistent.
Here's what I figured out. Sleep and a rock solid schedule are what he needs. Feeding on a schedule is also helpful, making sure that he gets fat, protein, and carbs every time. This was difficult to learn, my husband and I work on our own schedules and rarely lived by the clock. Our lives varied day to day depending on what we needed to do. That had to change. Our little boy needed to know what to expect and when. Our inconsistency was driving him nuts.
If we skipped a nap or put him down too late, we'd have to start over with sleep training--this is why it took us 4 mos. We'd go out of town or have visitors and have to start over. Other people can have their children sleep whenever, but our son needs his sleep on time. Without it he is a wreck. With enough sleep he is a lovely, affectionate almost 2 yr old, adored by his daycare teachers and all of the other children (the older children at daycare escort him to his classroom every day and argue over who gets to carry his lunchbox). He plays independently for an hour or two at a time.
Once I started following Dr M Weissbluth's recommendations in Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child, I saw improvement immediately and life got sane in a couple of weeks. In case you can't run out and get the book, here's the gist of what he says for 7 mos: bedtime 6:30 PM, wake-up 6:30-7 AM, 3 naps about 2 1/2 hrs apart (So if she wakes at 6:30, nap at 9 AM). The way to make it happen is to put your baby in the crib, close the curtains, and close the door. For naps you don't open the door for 1 hour. For bedtime you don't open the door at all. In the morning, you don't go to her until at least 6:30 AM. You can put some books or toys where she can reach them. For most people this means cry it out. If you can see the sleepy signs (rubbing eyes/ears, looking a little glassy eyed) she may just go to sleep. You can nurse/soothe/rock the baby to sleep and then put her in the crib. (many books advise against this, but not Dr W).
If you are still breastfeeding, Dr W says that night feedings aren't necessary after 6 mos. I couldn't just break it off, so I tapered night feeding by selecting the time that I would feed him and had daddy go every other time. He got the idea very quickly (daddy comes two nights in a row, he would sleep through that time on the 3rd). He was night weaned by 9 mos. Around 9 mos, you should drop to 2 naps, and then at 18 mos, drop to one. But keep the early bed-time until they are 3-4 yrs old.
People (especially grandparent-aged people and moms with flexible babies) think I am crazy about the sleep stuff and keeping his schedule. They don't understand why I can't bring him out during the evening for dinners out or other events or why life has to be planned around naptime. But this is a NEED. He needs his sleep. I need a happy well-rested baby.
Having a regular nap schedule will also make you more sane. You will know that when you put her down, you have 1 hour to take a shower, or check email, or stare at the ceiling without holding her. It won't be an easy transition, but be consistent and firm. If you break the rules, she will think that there is wiggle room and cry longer and harder. Develop a consistent routine before naps so that she knows what comes next.
Most likely you have a very intelligent, sensitive little girl who will be a delight. But she has needs. If you pay attention to her needs, you will see her at her best.
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M.S. answers from Sacramento on April 08, 2009
Try www.sleeplady.com I have heard wonderful things and she will do 1:1 consultation. It could be a very subtle change you need, but I think she could help. Good luck!
M. S.
B.R. answers from Merced on April 08, 2009
The way that she is screaming might be that she is not ready to leave your bed. Maybe you could try again in a couple of months. She may be starting to experience separation aniexty. This to shall pass. Wearing her in a sling would keep her close and comfort her while allowing you to be hands free to do what you need to do.
J.M. answers from San Francisco on April 08, 2009
Hi S.,
My daughter is almost 6 1/2 months and just started screaming herself. at first she found out what a high pitch she could make by screaming and now she screams for fun to be goofy and play and she has learned to start screaming and crying for attention. She is teething so I hope it passes but at least after reading this i feel a little bit better knowing its not just my daughter. My fiance tells me its because i spoil her and run to her every need but I really don't think it's true. I let her cry for a good 10 mins sometimes if I know she's fed, clean diaper and well rested. I guess high needs kids seem more prevalant in girls and I don't know why. Us women are more needy I supposed? Well I am with you and though I don't have any advice I hope just knowing its just beginning for me too helps you to know its NOT US! Also, this is causing issues with my fiance and I because he'll just let her scream forever and put her on timeout and i am not sure she gets TIME OUT or if she just feels that when she is moody or upset that we don't care about her?
Take care!
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