M.K. asks from Chico, CA on June 20, 2010
6 Yo Sprary Painted the House
So, my son found a can of spray paint at my sister's house and spray painted her door. Luckily it was in the back of the house, and fairly easily fixable with a new coat of paint. I made him tell his aunt what he had done and apologize, and we will pay for the damage, etc. I know there needs to be a deeper consequence, such as working off the money it costs to repair the damage or something akin to being grounded/ losing privileges. My husband and I are in disagreement about the punishment, So my question to you is, what punishment would you impose and for how long? Thanks for the advice.
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We decided to continue talking to him about touching other people's stuff and make him do chores all week to "pay" for the repairs for the damage he did. I made a big list and he has to do all those things by the end of the week (it ends up being about 20-25 minutes a day of work. Some of it is work he doesn't mind much (like emptying all the garbage and raking the leaves from under the hedges), and some of it he is not too happy about (like wiping down all the chair legs and seats and sweeping the patio). So, I think it will be a good balance of responsibility and "not fun" to have so much work to do.
To those who suggested it was irresponsible to have him unsupervised, I say this: When you think everything is where it belongs, it doesn't take long for a six year old to find it! Sigh. Thank you for all your help.
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C.S. answers from Las Vegas on June 21, 2010
First offender, make him correct his mistake. He pays for the paint and supplies with set pricing (mowing the front lawn $2, taking out trash $0.50, etc). As well, he participate in at least prepping the door to be repainted. The door should be thoroughly washed before it is painted and then taped off. If you trust him to help paint, let him do that as well. As for the repayment, it should be paid off by a certain time or else...[consequence]. You have to make it suck so he won't do it again.
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P.W. answers from San Francisco on June 21, 2010
I agree with Betty. Have him help repaint it.
He's only 6, so he wasn't exactly tagging. Don't be too harsh about it.
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M.P. answers from Portland on June 21, 2010
I do not agree that there has to be a punishment. I suggest that he be disciplined. The purpose of discipline is to teach. If he's learned his lesson then what has happened is enough. Remember that a 6 year old's brain is still immature. Impulsive behavior is normal. So is experimenting. He wants to know what this can does to a door. He starts and it's fun. He is not thinking about whether or not its right or wrong. One lesson that you want to help him learn is to think before he acts. Another may be to not snoop or be in places which are not the usual places for him to be and to not do handle anything that does not belong to him or which he's not been allowed to play with before. Those are just a few of the lessons. You can't teach them all at once tho you can touch on all of them by talking with him in a respectful manner. Not by lecturing or preaching. Treating him as a kid who made a mistake and can learn from it. Recognize that he will be learning these lessons over time. You are putting information into a brain that is immature whose ability to comprehend totally all of those lessons at one time is limited. And his ability to focus is also limited. So make this discussion short. Perhaps 10-20 minutes. Including his telling you what he heard.
I suggest that you choose one lesson and reinforce that one if he appears to have not learned from your talk. How do you know if he learned. Ask him what he learned and listen. Perhaps clarify for him some part of what you said that he didn't hear.
If you think he didn't understand or you want to further reinforce a lesson choose a discipline related to what he did. For example, let him help repaint the door or doing a chore for the person who is painting the door so that the person doing the painting doesn't have to do the chore.
I don't think this situation is appropriate for grounding or losing privileges unless they are related to the door. An example of a natural consequence would be that he has to stay in the same room with you when you visit the aunt because you can't trust that he won't get into something that is not his.
For discipline to be effective it has to be related to the lesson you want him to learn. If the discipline is arbitrary he learns that he will be punished. Fear is effective for stopping behavior only for a limited amount of time.
I think that having to tell his aunt what he's done and apologize is a good form of discipline. Doing this was not easy for him to do. Now he knows that if he does something that damages someone else's property he will have to tell them and apologize. You can repeat that discipline again when he breaks something or does some other act that damages someone else's property. He's six. This sort of thing will happen again. Lessons repeated are well learned.
While if he gets grounded or loses a privilege, unrelated to the door, he learns to not get caught. You want to teach him a positive way to make what he did right.
We do have to have rules and boundaries with children. I think that sometimes we rush to punish and lose sight of the focus to teach. If I'd spray painted a door when I was his age, I certainly would not spray paint anything else because of everyone's reaction and the trouble I'd caused. My mother would have talked with me about what I'd done, what was appropriate to do in response and then asked me if I understood. My father would have spanked me. I credit my mother for my understanding of the difference between right and wrong.
I was angry with my father until he was an old man confined to bed. I was able to let go of my anger, in small part, because he was now helpless and understood how helpless I still felt when as an adult he lectured me on how wrong I was instead of talking with me about what had happened and how I could make it right.
Later: I agree with Carla S. whole heartedly until the last sentence. "You have to make it suck......" NO! You have to help him feel good about being a responsible boy! Praise his work! I don't know that a 6 yo can mow the lawn but I agree that working it off in the way she described it is an excellent idea.
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B.R. answers from Sacramento on June 21, 2010
It will be extra work for adults, but I would have the child participate in the task of re-painting the door... assuming you aren't going to have it done by a professional painter. A six year old can paint rather well. It may mean a bit of surreptitious re-doing on the part of the adults who are painting, but just having him need to be a part of the correction of what he did is, in my opinion a great idea. I would try to let him paint until he starts to realize that it is work, not just fun.
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S.H. answers from San Antonio on June 21, 2010
I guess it depends on the maturity of the child. I would not be opposed to sending him over with some sand paper and making him work to get it off, then paint the door. Obviously he's not going to do a great job, you'll end up doing the bulk of the work. I think, though, that doing the job to whatever extent will teach him that there are serious consequences to his actions and he has to own up. Maybe he can do part of the work to fix the mess he left and work to pay for the paint?
I'm kind of harsh about these things, but I want to set the precedent while they are young so that when they find themselves with more freedom and harder choices, peer pressure, etc. they will know that they're not getting away with anything and they'll think twice. The harsher the work now, the less you'll have to enforce later. That's my game plan, anyway. I'll let you know if it works. :)
Way to go on teaching him to tell the truth, face the consequences of his actions and following through! It is often just easier to fix the issue. You are a champion parent.
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C.S. answers from Las Vegas on June 21, 2010
First offender, make him correct his mistake. He pays for the paint and supplies with set pricing (mowing the front lawn $2, taking out trash $0.50, etc). As well, he participate in at least prepping the door to be repainted. The door should be thoroughly washed before it is painted and then taped off. If you trust him to help paint, let him do that as well. As for the repayment, it should be paid off by a certain time or else...[consequence]. You have to make it suck so he won't do it again.
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M.R. answers from San Francisco on June 21, 2010
Why did he paint the door? Getting to the root of the question may determined what punishment, if any, he deserves. My son is 5 and there are things he does that I have to step back and think, is this normal for a curious 5 year old or is he doing it, for example, to spite me?
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A.T. answers from Stockton on June 21, 2010
I colored the slate floor and river rock fireplace my dad built himself with blue, purple and green crayons when I was about 4 because the colors matched my mom's sofa (yes, it was ugly) thinking I was doing something nice. Mom had always complained that the slate didn't match the fireplace BTW. I got the beating of my life from both parents and had to clean it off with a fingernail brush.
My point is - at 6 he probably saw the spray can and wondered - hey what's this do? it seemed like a good idea at the time and was not done to be intentionally naughty or destructive.
I think making him apologize and "pay" is a good idea - however - my 5 year old son would LOVE helping repaint the door and see it as a reward which may cause him to do it again so he can paint something else.
You need to stress that your son shouldn't touch things that aren't his especially at someone else's house, and that he should ASK a grown-up when he finds something he is curious about instead of just trying it. It could have been a can of bug poison or something else dangerous.
I clearly remember being asked throughout my child hood WHY DID YOU DO THAT?? Most of the time the only answer I could think of was that it seemed like a good idea at at the time, so I always answered "i dunno."
I see the same theme with my son and laugh at Hubby whe he asks WHY - when the kid has no idea - he just did it.
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L.C. answers from Washington DC on June 21, 2010
Make him clean it up and help repaint.
He needs to earn the cash to pay for the repairs - however you want to make him earn money works.
He doesn't need a punishment - he needs a consequence. The consequence is that he has to work off his debt and repaint the door. You can certainly torture him all summer with grunt work!
YMMV
LBC
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K.P. answers from New York on June 21, 2010
I would have your son do chores around either your house or your sister's to "earn the money" for the repairs. He needs to start understanding that there is a correlation b/w actions and their outcomes- financial and labor costs! I come up with a menu of chores and payment. Have him do one or two things each day to pay for the damage. Realistically, a can of paint isn't too expensive, so he should be able to "do his time" within a week. Developmentally- the punishment shouldn't last longer than that!
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