D.B. asks from Lewisville, TX on March 06, 2012
504 Plan - Lewisville,TX
I am submitting a request for a 504 plan for my 2nd grader. What is the timeline for the school's response? Also, if you have any pointers for working with the school or things to watch out for, I'd appreciate it! I do have some experience as a sp. ed. advocate, but it was mostly IEPs, and over 10 yrs ago, so my memory is a bit fuzzy!
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Thanks for all of your answers. You've helped me to clarify in my head what the issues are and what I think might help him. His teacher and the school counselor are aware of his diagnosis (sensory processing disorder) and his teacher has been wonderful with accommodating his needs. I also work hard to provide a balanced sensory diet and communicate regularly with the teacher so we are both on the same page. However, for the past 8-10 weeks, his grades have dropped, his anxiety has been up, and he's been acting up in class. The teacher actually came to me about starting the process for services, especially since next year my son will have to take the STAR test. The teachers at the school are exceptional, but I have had communication problems with the principal and school counselor in the past (them talking in circles and not being upfront, not taking responsibility for their actions or lack thereof, not following up in a timely manner, and hoping problems will just go away if they ignore it). I just want to make sure I have my ducks in a row so I don't put the teacher in an awkward position with her boss. Thanks again!
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M.M. answers from Dallas on March 07, 2012
504 is not always Sped. In fact, in many cases they only need a certain modification that fits their particular need - such as dyslexic or Irlen's students.
The school should respond quickly, but the paperwork/meeting can take a couple of weeks at the least. It is a bit late in the year for a 504 to be put in place since there are only 10 weeks left of school. The schools are now testing for Sped (so the student can immediately start Sped next school year) and are considering retention at this point - lots of meetings for that. So the timeline could be longer.
AND, not to mention the STAAR test will be administered this month...so that is a HUGE focus right now.
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R.Y. answers from New York on March 06, 2012
When I was a case worker I found that the different districts varied a lot on their response time. As you might expect the more overcrowded schools with a greater percentage of special education students were slower. I'd ask around locally for your school district.
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J.F. answers from Bloomington on March 07, 2012
I was the 504 teacher in my school.....almost 10 years ago. At the time, we had 30 days to respond to the parent, if not get the 504 in place.
A 504 plan is very easy to implement because it is NOT an IEP. It is just "common sense" on a paper to make sure the student's rights are respected and upheld.
Does your child have a diagnosis that is keeping her from learning? This applies for kids who have ADD/ADHD, a broken leg, anxiety, bad eye sight, etc. If you suspect a learning disability that is NOT previously diagnosed, you have to start at square 1. That's the process you are probably familiar with. Lots of formal and informal evaluations, observations in the classroom, meetings to discuss evaluations, and assessments from a school psychologist....then an IEP is written if the child has been diagnosed with an LD.
Students that are on an IEP typically do not have a 504 plan because it is redundant.
To assist your school with writing a 504 plan, walk yourself through your child's day. What obstacles does he/she have? How would YOU solve that problem? Your solution has to be easy for the teacher to implement *sitting at the front of the room, near the board, near the teacher, etc.
*getting extra time to get items from a locker or to get to class (student with a broken leg).
*allowing student to take backpack into classroom (some schools do not allow this) for students who need help with organization
*allowing student to use the bathroom or quiet corner whenever he/she has to (students with medical condition or anxiety)
*asking the teacher to sign off the daily planner for students who need help remembering or organization
*asking another student to help struggling student pack their bag for the day
*giving student extra time to clean his/her desk or more frequently during appropriate times
You are more likely to get what your child needs if YOU know all the issues and have ideas for the solutions.
Like I said, this is just common sense on a paper. In elementary you typically don't have teachers being mean or unreasonable with a student's actual needs (sometimes you do). In middle and high school, you get teachers who don't believe the kid or think that the diagnosis is a joke. They penalize kids for taking their backpack in the room, etc.
Good luck!!!
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K.P. answers from New York on March 07, 2012
There are several timelines... check with your state's guidance document, but in NY the district has 10 days to "respond" and 30 to "meet and implement". So, if you submit a letter this week, you should anticipate a phone call or letter indicating a meeting day and time within a month.
I was the AP/ Section 504 Chairperson for many years as well as a Supervisor for Special Education. I can honestly say that Section 504 is much easier to navigate and implement because it is less regulated and based entirely on your child's individual needs.
Your child must qualify for the support plan, though, so be prepared with documentation on how your child's condition "substantially limits a major life activity". Please keep in mind that a "diagnosis" is NOT enough- there has to be a substantial impact on your child's learning and ability to demonstrate his/her knowledge.
Section 504 plans are built around accommodations and modifications. Accommodations are things like:
- extended time on tests
- directions repeated and/or explained
- tests administered in a separate location
Keep in mind that accommodations are meant to "level the playing field" so that your child can demonstrate his/her knowledge. They are not meant to give an advantage, nor can they modify the curriculum in any way.
Modifications are tihngs that actually "change" the way things are presented to your child or the way in which your child responds:
- Preferential seating in the classroom
- Number of items reduced (think math worksheet cut "in half" so that your child still demonstrates understand, but isn't doing 20 problems when 10 would have the same impact)
- Homework modified per teacher discretion
I caution you from too many program modifications. You do NOT want things modified for your child to a point where they are no longer receiving the general curriculum. I have seen this happen... parents think "more is better" when in fact it is not.
As you develop the plan and implement it, make sure that you also monitor whether or not this is actually helping your child. Section 504 plans do NOT have to include instructional supports (like Resource Room) or related services (like OT). If your child requires those supports and services, then you would need to consider a special education referral.
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B.W. answers from Dallas on March 08, 2012
If I can be of help in the future - both my kids were 504 and I was at one time an ADA advocate and helped write many 504s...these were mainly for diabetes but my son had other issues.....504 is Federal so it really doesn't matter what the school policy is....I ended up filing a discrimation suit on behave of my daughter through the national 504 office - we won...
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B.V. answers from Detroit on March 07, 2012
All schools have a process they have to complete before they can officially put your student on a 504 plan and/or IEP. There are various things that need to be completed , besides paper work. And just like the previous poster stated dependeding on the size of school and number of special Ed students can effect the response time. With that being said, you should hav einitial response from the school within a month or two that states they have started the process.
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J.U. answers from Washington DC on March 07, 2012
Call the board of education. Ask them directly how long it should take to get a response. Google the laws in your state and see if there is a free call center for children with disabilities. They usually have free legal advice or can direct you to an advocate. Depending on your childs situation, I would make sure you have documentation to back anything medical you feel can merit the request. The only other suggestion I would make is to call your childs doctor and see if they are aware of any other families in similar situations and ask to pass your information along. I am sure with your experience you know that networking is some of the best medicine for getting this exact information.
I would request if the 504 is denied, that you try it for a trial period to see if there is any improvement I would say a 30-60 day period. Good luck.
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M.M. answers from Dallas on March 07, 2012
504 is not always Sped. In fact, in many cases they only need a certain modification that fits their particular need - such as dyslexic or Irlen's students.
The school should respond quickly, but the paperwork/meeting can take a couple of weeks at the least. It is a bit late in the year for a 504 to be put in place since there are only 10 weeks left of school. The schools are now testing for Sped (so the student can immediately start Sped next school year) and are considering retention at this point - lots of meetings for that. So the timeline could be longer.
AND, not to mention the STAAR test will be administered this month...so that is a HUGE focus right now.
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C.O. answers from Washington DC on March 07, 2012
In Fairfax County, VA they have 10 - TEN - days to respond.
if you have ANY diagnoses from a certified doctor, i.e. dyslexia, ADD, ADHD, etc. bring them with you - not the doctors, the diagnosis.
Bring any test scores, notes from the teachers, etc. they WILL be in the meeting as well to discuss with the school counselor, principal and school psychologist to discuss your child's behavior, habits, issues and what needs to be done to help your child be successful in school.
Tell the school what you witness or deal with at home when it comes to homework, social activities, etc. this will help them as well - they need to know what you have done to help your child and what you have found helps him succeed in things - for us - Nicky needs something called a wiggle pillow so that he can sit in his seat and still move. It helps with his focus. The school allows that.
he also has a nervous habit of chewing his nails - in order to keep him from doing it - he gets to chew gum in class. he cannot share it, blow bubbles with it nor can it leave his mouth (play with it). That helps him focus as well - I know - funky - but it does.
Just be your child's advocate!! You can do it mama!!
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