K.C. asks from Cincinnati, OH on September 01, 2006
3 Year Old Will Not Go to Sleep by Herself!!
My daughter will be 3 in two days and we can not get her to sleep w/out laying down with her. We have the same bedtime routine eveynight, (brush teeth, go potty read a book and pray) We have tried gradually moving out each night, and letting her cry it out, 3 hours later we finally had to give in. She cries so hard she gags and almost vomits! Any ideas, we are at a loss of what to do!!
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J.S. answers from Cincinnati on September 04, 2006
You know my 4 year old son just started going to bed on his own about 3 weeks ago. He had this thing where he wanted to fall asleep on the couch and then I'd carry him into bed. Well I didn't really mind..he needed what he needed..then all the sudden he proclaimed to me.."I want to go to sleep in my own bed now mommy" I hugged him and said how proud I was of him. I think just letting him work out whatever it was he needed to work out..helped a lot. He even slept through the night! With his father and I divorcing and all that comes with that..I just let him work things out. Now I don't have to carry him to bed..which is a good thing..can't imagine doing that when he's 12!!!
K.S. answers from Cleveland on September 04, 2006
Hi, I think it will take a while, I'm guessing that you have always done this. She dosn't know how to fall asleep on her own. I'm one of the let her cry it out people. When she learns it doesn't work she will give up. It's going to take a while untill she learns how to fall asleep on her own. I have a Daycare child that does the same thing, she can actually make herself throw up and uses it to get what she wants (not at my house because she knows it does not work). So I would let her cry, come in every 30 to 40 minutes to lay her back down (with a minimum amount of interaction) and if she throws up just clean it up and lay her back down. Trust me if she realizes that throwing up can get what she wants she might start using it. Kids are really smart (at least that was what happened with my Daycare Child).
Good Luck
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M. answers from Cincinnati on September 02, 2006
I second the recommendation for a calm, consistent bedtime routine in helping set the stage for an easier time parenting your 3 yr old to sleep. We have a 3.5 yr old daughter, and until just recently, one of us has always snuggled with her after stories until she was asleep - partly because she wanted & needed that closeness and we were happy to provide it, and partly because parenting can be just exhausting so at times we succombed to that opportunity to rest, too (sometimes we'd joke that she'd put one of us to sleep instead of our putting her to sleep!). ;)
However, at some point for us it started being a bit frustrating, too (uh, when her little brother was born earlier this year). So something had to change.
DISCLAIMER: As you know, parenting is never one-size-fits-all, so I share what worked for us. It may not work for you, or it may spark you to think of something else that will. Regardless, I hope your family is able to find a win-win solution.
OK, so we already had a good bedtime routine in place. My husband and I do not like the cry-it-out method because it just doesn't feel right for our family and we feel there's a more compassionate, gradual way (if we were in our daughter's position, we wouldn't want to have to cry it out). So we brainstormed and read a few different opinions/suggestions, and I *wish* I could remember where this came from so I could give proper credit, but what worked for us was to identify what need of hers wasn't being met such that she needed one of us to lay down with her. For her, she needed to know/feel that we're close by, able to get to her quickly if she would need us for anything, and she did not like to feel super alone in a dark room with the door closed.
So, here's what our routine looks like now:
1) Bedtime routine as normal (pjs on, brush teeth, use toilet, hop in bed for stories, then lights out with 3-5 minutes of tucking in/cuddling/snuggling)...
2) The last step is hugs & kisses with mom or dad getting up from the bed. We remind her that we're right downstairs doing something concrete (so she can relate to it easily) and that one of us will be up right after that to check on her, and then WE FOLLOW THROUGH - usually she's asleep by the 2nd check-in.
An example of how this sounds: "Sleep tight, sweetie. We love you so much and I'll check in on you soon. I am going downstairs now to empty the dishwasher (or switch the laundry, or nurse your little brother), and as soon as I'm done I'm done, I will come right back up and check on you." She is fine with this for the majority of nights, but on other nights she might be upset (usually when she's overtired or not feeling well) and says, "But I want a live person to lay with me!" I empathize with her, and remind her that we've snuggled a little bit already, that I'm thinking of her while I'm doing (laundry, dishes, nursing brother), will check on her very soon, and that I am listening for her on the monitor. And on these nights, I try to make my first "check in" sooner, which seems to help. Also, we're not opposed to laying with her until she's asleep for a few nights a week, but that's the exception now as opposed to the rule. I just can't attend to her baby brother's needs if I lay with her, but I do try to support her need for not feeling alone (by checking in, reassuring her that I am thinking of/listening for her).
* Oh, and we leave the door 1/2 open, and sometimes a nightlight (if she asks).
Best of luck with rearranging the routine so that it's working better for all of you - hang in there! :)
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4. answers from Toledo on September 02, 2006
This is a common problem, but not impossible to solve. You just have to be willing to follow through. It's not going to be easy. At 3, she's probably pretty set in her ways.
My son had the same problem, but I realized it was my problem, too, because I kept giving in to his demands. I couldn't stand to just let him cry! I started weaning him of his nightime attachment to me by tucking him in, kissing him goodnight, and leaving the room. He would cry and scream and work himself up into such a fit! I would wait 5 minutes (often just outside his door, crying too) and then go into his room, stroke his hair for 5 seconds (literally!) and leave again, assuring him that I love him. He would cry again, and I would wait 10 minutes before going into his room to repeat the reassurances. I did this over and over, adding 5 minutes to the time I waited before going into his room to soothe him yet again.
There were nights this process took 3-4 hours. I did this EVERY NIGHT for 22 long days, but he now goes to sleep on his own. We also gradually introduced a nightime routine, and he not only knows what comes next when I say, "It's time for bed," he goes through the routine cheerfully almost entirely on his own! He knows that if he REALLY needs me, he can call for me in his "big boy" voice, and I will come to help him.
This was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do, and I hated every minute of it. But it's over, and he's not scarred for life, and we are both happier now that he sleeps through the night. Since January of this year, he's only called for me once. Oh, and he also sleeps 11 hours a night!
Hope this helps. Best of luck to you.
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K.K. answers from Cleveland on September 02, 2006
Don't give in. You don't have to give in. Go in periodically while she is crying and reassure her you are there and then leave. Eventually she WILL fall asleep. If she knows you will give in eventually then why no keep crying? If she knows you won't give in then she will fall asleep and the next night she might only cry for an hour and it will decrease. The hard part is getting through the first night.
Good luck.
C.M. answers from Cincinnati on September 03, 2006
Have you tried a noise machine (plays nature sounds, or white noise)- or even a radio or CD playing softly may help... you could even try a small aquarium with a goldfish.. the noise from the air pump/water is soothing and your daughter may not feel as lonely/scared with a fishy friend ? good luck
P.Z. answers from Grand Rapids on September 04, 2006
Routine is the best way, also my ped told me that it is okay to have a hallway light on if that helps to keep us out of the room. If that seems to work then it would tend to be that she is afraid of something. Find a routine that works and try that if that doesn't seem to work my ped has me giving our three year old Meletonin, it is in the vitamin area of any store and I give her 1 mg about 1/2 before bed time, that helps her to fall asleep. Before giving this to her we would be fighting her for hours to go to bed. Now we just give her apple juice with it in there and she is asleep in about 30 minutes or less.
Hope you find a way!!!
J.S. answers from Cincinnati on September 04, 2006
You know my 4 year old son just started going to bed on his own about 3 weeks ago. He had this thing where he wanted to fall asleep on the couch and then I'd carry him into bed. Well I didn't really mind..he needed what he needed..then all the sudden he proclaimed to me.."I want to go to sleep in my own bed now mommy" I hugged him and said how proud I was of him. I think just letting him work out whatever it was he needed to work out..helped a lot. He even slept through the night! With his father and I divorcing and all that comes with that..I just let him work things out. Now I don't have to carry him to bed..which is a good thing..can't imagine doing that when he's 12!!!
M.R. answers from Wheeling on September 01, 2006
This will require some habitual changes on everyone's part.
Start by avoiding sugary drinks such as koolaid, soda, or juice after three pm. Water and milk will help a lot more.
Set a routine. About an hour before bedtime, start with brushing teeth, bathing (using a lavender scented soap will calm a child to sleepiness), and getting into comfy jammies.
Have her pick out a book, sit and read (move to her bed after the first couple of days), and cuddle. Snuggle. NO ACTIVE stuff like tickling or blowing on the belly. Only calm stuff. The first week or so, stay til she's asleep then slowly work your way backwards til she's sleepy and starts putting herself to bed.
Pretty much after the afternoon snack the whole house here goes into calm-down mode. (It also helps that the kids don't get three hour long naps. I'll let the sleep until two pm- no matter what time they actually fell asleep.) They play after their naps, then have a snack and it's inside activities the rest of the day.
And it does work. Just providing a steady routine with few energy boosting foods late in the day makes my son want to start his bedtime routine at six thirty. He's down (on his own) by 8.
V.C. answers from Detroit on September 02, 2006
Hi K.,
I have five children ranging from 17 to 9yrs. Each one of them had there time where they wanted to sleep with mom and dad. It will get better, I promise! When your one year old is a little older your three year old will be the big sister and they could share a room for a while. My kids always likes having an extra person in the room, until they got to be a teenager of course. My kids always started off in there bed, sometimes I had to lay down with them until they fell asleep, but it never failed, before morning, I always had at least two in bed with us. As they get older they do grow out of it, especially if they have a brother or sister sharing a bedroom with them. Then when they become teenagers you couldn't beg them to spend a few hours with you. So, be patient a while longer, she only want the security that you aren't gona leave her. Also, when ever I prayed with them I always said in the prayer, so the kids could hear it, "please let Matthew know that you are with him, and let him know that you won't let any thing happen to him, and let him have only good dreams." The kids always felt safer and would not let me miss a night praying with them. Good luck, I hope this helps you.
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