J.C. asks from Fairbanks, AK on January 26, 2008
16 Hour Plane Trip with 11 Month Old Twins
We are taking our first big airplane trip (from Fairbanks to the MS Gulf Coast) with our twins. They will be riding on our laps. We have several flights with layovers. Just wondering if anyone has any tips on how to make this easier on anyone. I am looking for secrets for packing to getting through security to the plane ride and dealing with jet lag. Also wondering how the whole gate check process works as we are planning on taking our car seats and stroller. If we gate check them do they count against our number of allowed bags?
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C.W. answers from Seattle on January 28, 2008
A.C. answers from Medford on January 28, 2008
I have a 12 year old girl, a nine year old girl, and a 5 month old baby boy. When my little girls were toddlers I took them on a plane from Seatle to arazona. We just took a lot of little stuffed animals in a big zip up bag. After a while their ears heart, but if they are good with gum, it helps soo much.
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D.K. answers from Seattle on January 28, 2008
Keep breathing! Take your car seats and strollers -- no they do not count as bags if you gate check - we always used our strollers as our luggage cart. Food, bring lots of snacks -- granola bars, fishies, you can bring liquids in a bottle for kids -- check the TSA web site for details and the latest -- you do need to avoid jam (PB&J) -- they usually have juice on the airplane and will water it down for you -- they sometimes have milk too. Also good to bring along -- books, toys (new ones - so they are excited to seer them) lovies (special stuffed animals, pillows) When we travelled with lil ones we took very little for oursleves onboard -- mostly two pack backs of stuff for the kids! Travel safely!
L.M. answers from Seattle on January 30, 2008
I only have 1 15 month old but I just returned last week from a 3 week trip to Mexico. I also traveled with her when she was 6 months. The airlines make it very easy to use strollers. You will actually bring it right to the plane and leave it when you board. When you get to each destination, your stroller will be waiting for you. It's so nice. I know how expensive it is to buy each of them a seat, but my question is, how are you and your husband going to eat or get any rest if you each are holding a baby? Buy them a seat if it's not to late. You will regret it if you don't. Good Luck!
B.B. answers from Eugene on January 30, 2008
Good luck to you. We flew with our twins when they were about 10 months old. It's a lot of work, but you can do it. You'll probably want to double check with your airline, but when we went the car-seats did not count as checked items. We checked those, then we took the stroller all the way up to the plane. They gate-checked it as we boarded the plane. It was nice because then we had the stroller in the terminal for each of our layovers. This allowed us to take the boys for walks to keep them entertained, yet freed up our arms for other things. I don't agree with those who recommend you gate check the carseats too. Here's why. 1) You won't need them again until you reach your destination. 2) The security check can be a huge hassel. You will have both babies, a stroller, a diaper-bag, and who knows what else to run through screening. Car-seats are one less thing to worry about. 3) You will have to drag them around the terminal during layovers.
Before we went, we received some advice that was helpful. Our boys never took bottles or pacifiers, so we had no way for them to pop their ears on the take-offs and landings. Someone told us to take dum-dums for them to suck on. This worked great, but you may want to have a couple of wet-wipes handy because they can get sticky. We also fit everything we took into our checked luggage, so we had no carry-ons(except for a diaper bag that was a backpack style to keep our hands free). This was nice for two reasons: 1) our hands were free on the plane to deal with the babies 2) it helped us get through security with that much less hassel.
One other thing, (I'm sure you know) but give yourself plenty of extra time at the airport. It takes more time to get the car-seats checked in and the stroller through security than normal.
I hope you have a great trip. Good luck!
J.R. answers from Portland on January 28, 2008
I took my two children along with my husand from Portland, OR to Frankfurt, Germany which was a 10 hour direct flight. My oldest was 2 1/2 and my youngest was 2 months. My older child had her own seat and her carseat was one of her carry on's. My younger child had a stroller but that did not count towards our baggage. Each of that ticketed people which was three in our case could have two carry on's. You can also call the 1-800 #'s for the airlines and they will let you know for sure what they allow.
As for on the plane fun I would say have one backpack for them with: small toys, clothes, diapers, snacks, 2 books. That is a hard age sometimes to entertain.
With getting through security I would ask if you can use the handicap line. If there is no one in it sometimes they will let you use it since you take longer to get through. We were able to use it in Germany and it really helped out.
Just a reminder to take as little as possible. Don't over pack yourself since you have two kids, carseats, and a stroller and that alone is enough!
Good Luck!
D.J. answers from Spokane on January 28, 2008
Car seats and strollers do count and will cost at least 50 bucks if they are over the amount of bags allowed. Have you considered purchasing an extra seat? It would give you much more room to stretch out and it would allow you the extra "baggage". Be sure to bring goodies for the kids that are non perishable and a few of there favorite toys.
J.B. answers from Anchorage on January 28, 2008
If you are flying AlaskaAir, you might want to double check, but when we last flew with lap children, they told us that anything baby related did not count towards our baggage allowance- like car seats, strollers, and diaper bags. I would recommend checking your car seats under the plane so you don't have to carry them if you are taking strollers to the gate. You will have to take the children out of the strollers at the security check point. And depending on the airport, sometimes even have to take their shoes off. I assume you are going thru seattle for one of your layovers, and just to let you know- EVERYTHING is shut down from about 11 pm to 5 am. There is one little area (I think it is on the B concourse, but I could be wrong) that has a little play gym for kids to play at. Hopefully yours will be sleeping, but if not, it does give them a place to expend some energy. Also, sometimes,when you check in, you can see how full the flight is, and then ask them to put an empty seat next to you if they have one. They will sometimes block it off so no one will sit there because people would rather give up the seat than sit next to a child. But that depends on how full the flight is. We live in Anchorage area, and have done a few flights with lap children and older ones. We try to coordinate our flights with sleep time. Sometimes it works, sometimes it back fires. We try to keep them up so they are utterly exhuasted and will just fall asleep. That is the best way to work it, if everyone (the kids) will just cooperate! Good luck and have a good trip!
L.V. answers from Corvallis on January 28, 2008
Hi J.,
My experiances with flying with babies was well before 9/11, so I can't speak to the regulations you may run into. But calling your travel agent or the airline will answer most of those questions.
When you are reserving your seats, try to get them just behind a bulkhead; since there are no seats in front of you there you will have the leg room and the space you will need.
Make sure you have a bottle of juice or formula handy during take-offs and landings as the sucking action will help them clear their ears.
Do diaper changes midflight or when you have time on a lay-over, not any time when seatbelts are needed; hang on to them snugly at those times. (Most of the time, it is not a big deal, but one time we hit a wind shear, during landing, and I snatched my daughter out of the air as she started to float off my lap.)
Make sure you have EVERYTHING before you get off a plane, especially when the transfer is short. (Their dad mad a mad dash back to the plane we got off, after we had boarded our next flight across the large termial, to recover a security blanket. He was successful, though our new flight delayed about 3 min for him to get back. Now with the security restictions as you board, I don't think it would have been possible for him to get back on the flight we left, in time, it was warming up to leave as well. I'm sure he took the half mile each way at a dead run.)
Bring things that entertain them. It will make you much more popular with your fellow passengers. Also figure out how they will take naps. The extra room may be key for this.
As for time zone changes, they will adjust as you do, about as fast and with minimal stress, because it is beyond their comprehension. The disruption in their schedule may even help their adjustment, as they will be much readier to settle into a regular schedule even if it is at a slightly different time.
I hope some of this helps you. It will be a great adventure. And there will be family stories that come from this, even if parts are stressful. When it is rough, think of how the story will sound in 10 years. Try to relax and enjoy as much of this as you can. Mine were one at a time, so twins will double the joys and the sorrows. But the airlines will try hard to work with you when they know you are traveling with babies.
L.
A.C. answers from Portland on January 29, 2008
OH, MY GOSH! My heart goes out to you! And my nerves! Wow! You are brave! My husband and I just recently completed a SHORT 2 1/2 hour flight from Portland to LA. We have a 2 year old and 4 month old. They sat on our laps too. Our boys did super but by the end we were so READY to be off the plane and never do it again. Maybe that's just flying in general.
Nevertheless, I want to share with you what we learned.
-Set aside toys weeks ahead so that when you bring it out on the plane, it's "NEW". Also it helps to have two "sets" of toys for each way (or at least put the plane toys away when you arrive at your destination so they are new again) For my two year old, I brought coloring crayons, coloring book, dry erase book, bag of his favourite cars, a big book about machines, LOTS of SNACKS( sandwhiches, apples, carrots, celery, cookies, etc) A friend of mine said a package of balloons was a life saver for her almost two year old on a long flight. My friend would blow them up and Zoe would love watching the air splutter out.
-We weren't allowed to sit next to each other(on a 4 seater plane) cause of the oxygen mask allowance, but I'm sure you'll be able to on an international flight.
-We brought two carseats, a pack n play, an ice chest and 4 carry on bags. We were maxed out. My brother strapped two carseats together, wrapped it in a trash bag and wrapped it all up. They counted it as one check on. The airlines told us we couldn't do this, but they didn't bother with my brother. Anything over 60 inches (length, width, height all added together) is counted as check on.
-Some things I found invaluable: wipes for hands, faces, arms of chairs ets ( I make my own with paper towels, essential oils, aloe vera and vinegar); also liquid deteregent for baby spills that are bound to happen on our clothes and their clothes. Detergent is expensive when you travel.
-The airlines won't let you take water on the plane now. Also, anything over 4 ounces they won't let you carry on either. Everything has to be in a ziplock bag.
-Give the kids extra sleep when you arrive in MS Gulf Coast and back home in Fairbanks. They'll need it and so will you! I was strict with naptimes on our trip. My two year old slept alot.
-A common preventative for jet lag is LOTS of water. Get up and go pee. There are also homeopathic remedies that help ALOT. Also, DON'T EAT THE AIRLINE FOOD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. Bring your own. Often it's full of salt, dries you out. Drink tons of water. Don't be afraid to ask for as many bottled water as you need. I've done two international flights and all of these things helped me.
--Simplify! Simplify!
I can't think of anything else.
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