F.B. asks from Renton, WA on April 08, 2008
10 Year Old Won't Go in the Toilet
Mom's, I have a 10 year old (son) that will not go poo into the toilet. I take him to the doctor and he is all backed up, we give him softeners and I take him off milk products, change his diet. But he will not care if he sits in his pants with a smell and he waits until he is ready to go when he plugs up the toilet. I don't know what to do, we have punished him and awarded him. It's been going on since he was going to the bathroom at 2 years old. I wonder if there are other moms that have this problem, we are going to the doctor again on Thursday this week. I often think it's a control thing. He had a surgery at age 3 which also ended up being a hernia too. Does anyone have any ideas of what to do or even ask his doctor?
Thanks for you help ahead of time.
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L.L. answers from Seattle on April 09, 2008
If your doctor seems stumped...or even if he doesn't, you might ask for a referal to a gastroenterologist. My son (3 1/2) had a problem with constipation then had bloody diareah. Turns out the problem was still constipation. Because of the severity of the problem, the gastroenterologist had me give him SEVERAL enemas and put him on a laxative called miralax for about 2 months. It was GROSS at first, but the idea was to retrain the colon. It could be that after your sons surgery (or any other time for that matter) your son found it painful to poop and simply taught himself to restrict the bowel movements to make minimal pain while pooping. Once something like that is trained, especially in a child learning to use the toilet, it can be very difficult to undo. A gasteroenterologist may be just what you need. I am glad I took my son in even if it was a pain to deal with.
M.B. answers from Seattle on April 08, 2008
F.,
I had the problem with my 4 1/2 year old that we finally have had potty trained for about a month now. His problem was that there were monsters in the toilet that tried to get him/his poop whenever he sat down. We let him start squatting on the seat and that was the end of that issue. Your son is a little older, but still try and have a conversation with him and see if there is a similar problem.
Hope this helps,
M.
E.R. answers from Medford on April 09, 2008
maybe you could teach him about a courtesy flush.
S.J. answers from Seattle on April 09, 2008
If it's in your budget you might want to look into a new toilet. We have older toilets that tend to stop up easily. We went to Home Depot where a helpful couple directed us to the Kohler Cimmaron. They said they have three teenage boys and it never plugs. We got one and it is awesome! They are a little spendy - around $250. If that isn't feasible the stick thing is a good idea or some other way to break up the poop. Or perhaps he could flush when he is halfway through. We had very fussy plumbing as a kid and I remember holding it as long as I could because the toilets always got stopped up. Good luck!
D.M. answers from Anchorage on April 09, 2008
Have you tried taking him off gluten?
M.S. answers from Los Angeles on April 14, 2008
Oh, I just wanted to cry when I read your request for help. I got on Mamasource in your area by accident when I was playing around with my profile and then came across your post. I just responded to a Mom today in my area (So. Cal) with the same problem with her 5 year old. Anyway, I am pasting what I typed to her. Please feel free to email me at ____@____.com if you have any questions. Your son needs help from a specialist at this point and he will get better. Not only is this condition very common - it is more common in boys. The condition is Encopresis (if you don't have a Dr. that will treat you for it (so often they write off these symptoms to constipation only) then see a GI specialist - ASAP! OK, here is my post from today:
Yes!! We had this problem. I've posted on the subject many times so feel free to click on my name and check through my posts, however, there are a lot
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My daughter is 5 as well and went through this for about 2.5 years of her life. We too went to childrens (waste of time). That is another story.
I can say with complete confidence that your daughter has Encopresis. There is nothing you can do to talk her in to going poop on the toilet. Occasionally she'll have a toilet plugging blow out, other than that, she'll just give you squirts. Her poop is becoming impacted and only the liquid can get by. She needs to be emptied out and then given something to help her go daily. Diet/water are very important but won't get the poop out. Continue to make sure she is drinking plenty of water and eating whole grain foods, veggies, fruits, flax oil, etc.. no processed stuff. Get her eating great, (if she isn't already) that way, once you have her emptied and on the path of pooping daily, she won't have any set backs. It is very easy even once being emptied and pooping daily to become impacted again. It will also take her colon 3-6 months to get back to normal - it gets stretched out when they hold it and become impacted.
What we had to do, on the advice of a Pediatric specialist was the following: (this if FYI only - I am not a Dr., so please OK this through your Dr. first). Our Dr. called this the 5 day cleanout. For 5 days my daughter got an enema one day, suppository the next (not as bad as you would think, especially at this age where they understand you are trying to make the feel better). She got a 1/2 scoop of Miralax in water/juice every day and at night before bed, 2 tablespoons of mineral oil in a drink before bed. On about day 5, my daughter started pooping on her own in the toilet. We did this in Dec. 07 and she has been fine ever since. I NEVER thought we'd be here. After the 5 days were up, the Dr. told us to continue with the 1/2 scoop of Miralax until further notice. I haven't been back to see the Dr., but I no longer give it to her daily. She gets it when I think of it, maybe once every week or two weeks.
What your daughter is going through technically isn't constipation. This is where I think these kids get misdiagnosed so often and end up having issues for years. What your daughter has is very common. Get help now. My daughter was a new kid once we got this under control.
Feel free to email me if you have any questions. The specialist we saw is in Murrieta.
M.
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